Land Grabbing

[grizz441]

grizz441.....Bombers and land grabbin is not the problem ......The only REAL problem this game has  ever  had  is from people like yourself, who try to tell the rest of us how to play our game....end of story.
999000

Whoa, I didn't realize I attacked you personally 999000, but if you want to really go there...

I never told anyone how to play the game, and cmon lets get serious when I say 'suck' I am referring to fighting one versus one.  If you take my general insult 'suck' and somehow think I just said "999000 you are a sucky bomber" then you are way off.

Pilots never go from learning acm, getting good at it, seeing the successes from their practice, then abandoning it to landgrab full time and WTW.  It just doesn't happen.  It happens the other way around all the time though, just read some of the posts in this thread about it.  So maybe, just maybe, us 'furballers' as some like to label us as are on to something?  So when I say 99% of landgrabbers suck, I'm referring to their ability to fight themselves out of a wet paper bag in a fighter if they find themselves in such a rare situation where they are alone and the nme is closing in.  Never told you how to play the game, I'm just stating the obvious.

[CAP1]

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[Getback]

It's been my experience that most land grabbers will mix it up with anyone and throw caution to the wind. They are what makes the game exciting in my opinion. So I guess I'm not sure what you mean Grizz when you say that they suck. Suck is such a subjective word. Frankly I think it's actually slang. Now I'm going to warn you that if you do define it you will probably be inundated with sarcastic remarks. Good luck there.


9s, I may pay the knights a visit next week. It would be an honor if I could wing with ya in buffs.  Oh, I will die poorly.

[hammer]

Look, I don't have a problem with players that lack skill. I don't have a problem with missions....high alt or noe. I don't have a problem with field captures or resets.

What I have a problem with is folks that AVOID combat to accomplish the above..by whatever means. Yeah, that includes the suicide monkey that will dive past me to race the last 10 miles to a field so he can drop a couple of bombs and shoot ack until he dies. As often as not, this weenie will kill the VH and ord at the field so that the field can only be remotely defended. Yeah, a viable real world tactic....makes for sucky game play though...

Well said.

Regards,

Hammer

[grizz441]

It's been my experience that most land grabbers will mix it up with anyone and throw caution to the wind. They are what makes the game exciting in my opinion. So I guess I'm not sure what you mean Grizz when you say that they suck. Suck is such a subjective word. Frankly I think it's actually slang. Now I'm going to warn you that if you do define it you will probably be inundated with sarcastic remarks. Good luck there.


9s, I may pay the knights a visit next week. It would be an honor if I could wing with ya in buffs.  Oh, I will die poorly.

I did define it, check my last post.

[CAP1]

Look, I don't have a problem with players that lack skill. I don't have a problem with missions....high alt or noe. I don't have a problem with field captures or resets.

What I have a problem with is folks that AVOID combat to accomplish the above..by whatever means. Yeah, that includes the suicide monkey that will dive past me to race the last 10 miles to a field so he can drop a couple of bombs and shoot ack until he dies. As often as not, this weenie will kill the VH and ord at the field so that the field can only be remotely defended. Yeah, a viable real world tactic....makes for sucky game play though.

I have a problem with those that subscribe to the Machiavellian belief that the ends justify the means in the game. Many of them are the same people that will "manipulate" the scoring system so that they can get a high rank. Organizational skills and challenging in the same sentence? Oh well, I guess RL is so bad for some that this sort of thing is the only way they can justify their miserable existence.

BTW, if you are really interested in showing off your organizational skills and have a REAL challenge.....organize a scenario.

<<<<<<<<<<<doesn't ever fly anythign fast enough to run away. 

[BnZs]

You should play the game like everyone else. Without external view enabled during trigger presses.

Moot, IMO, of all stuff that has been done in AHII to try to make flying unescorted buffs around viable (for whatever reason), the external view is the least of us. The fact that they get to fire from a platform with field-gun like steadieness is much worse, for instance.

[NoBaddy]

<<<<<<<<<<<doesn't ever fly anythign fast enough to run away. 

LIAR!!! You just run REEEEEALY slow. 

BTW, just made the perfect film of what I'm talking about. Higher F6 dives as soon as he sees my lower P47. Dives past me to rocket the ord at a field. Dies shortly after he gets the 2nd ord bunker with his rockets. Now THAT's what passes for skill these days. Pathetic. 

[CAP1]

LIAR!!! You just run REEEEEALY slow. 

BTW, just made the perfect film of what I'm talking about. Higher F6 dives as soon as he sees my lower P47. Dives past me to rocket the ord at a field. Dies shortly after he gets the 2nd ord bunker with his rockets. Now THAT's what passes for skill these days. Pathetic. 

 


i hate when they do that.......the diving thing i mean.

[Anaxogoras]

They really need to increase the number of ordinance bunkers, or harden them.  Right now they are some of the softest targets next to field ack.

[moot]

Moot, IMO, of all stuff that has been done in AHII to try to make flying unescorted buffs around viable (for whatever reason), the external view is the least of us. The fact that they get to fire from a platform with field-gun like steadieness is much worse, for instance.

All of those aspects would be better off more realistic, but lack of air turbulence requires relatively lots of coad. Gun shake and forced external view toggle on trigger press don't..

[lowZX14]

LIAR!!! You just run REEEEEALY slow. 

BTW, just made the perfect film of what I'm talking about. Higher F6 dives as soon as he sees my lower P47. Dives past me to rocket the ord at a field. Dies shortly after he gets the 2nd ord bunker with his rockets. Now THAT's what passes for skill these days. Pathetic. 

Now hear me out on this one.  He set out to kill ords....done.  You set out to kill him.....done (sorta, he killed himself).  But who's not to say that he had the intention of living through that little rocket run and would gladly come and fight you.  I've done it plenty before.  Yes, I have gone into a field with others 99% of the time, with the intention of shutting it down.  Now, why should I abandon my primary mission and objective to fight you first?  The guy behind me coming in to do whatever his job is counts on me to do mine and then mix it up.  Why shouldn't I proceed to my target, drop my ords and then fight you?  If I fight you with them, depending on the plane matchup, I'll definitely lose.  If I drop my ords just to fight you, well there goes what I set out to do out of the window.  Sometimes flying one of those screaming fighters with a little ordinance through ack and a group of fighters defending their base is quite fun and exciting to see if you can make it through.  It's almost like a different kind of furball for guys flying jabo missions.

Seeing all of these same themed threads, I think I'll post one in the Wishlist to have one arena where bombers (heavy) and gv's are disabled as well as all structures are indestructable with no field ack to steal your kill on the guy diving on your field so all of the "furballers" will have a place where they don't have to worry about the WTW types porking their bases or avoiding fights.  But we can't disable ordinance in there for the guys that want to use their point and shoot "missiles".

[bongaroo]

You have to remember that my bomber gunning skills are comparable to your infatuation with beenie babies.

Non-existant?   

I seem to remember seeing a great screenshot of you talking crap to someone on 200 and he proceeded to take out your whole set of bombers...

[Joker2]

The majority of fulltime landgrabbers suck.  Like 99%.  You are an exception to the rule.  See the thing is, once you immerse yourself into 1v1 combat, there's no turning back.  You never hear any pilots say, "I used to be one of the best sticks in the game but I just got tired of it and decided to start taking bases full time."    I can confidently say that if you weren't a CO of a big squad, you would be getting your nose dirty all the time not worrying about winning the war.

Here's the thing Grizz i do go out and fight by myself quite often and yes it is fun however not something i could do all the time.
I prefer the thinking and Strategy as opposed to single 1 v1 combat, yes it is fun, but my whole existence on this game could not be about that.

I have no problem with you furballers out there. I enjoy immensely the fights the gettting owned and owning that goes on, i just could never give someone crap because they don't play my way.

Example the "Pony Dweeb" the one i have the most contempt for. But at the end of the day it's his 15 bucks and if it's so important to him to never engage and pick all day so be it.

I say play and let play my fun is hangin with my squadies a real good group of guys we enjoy all aspects of the game GV'ing bombing capturing and Furballing. not the best at any 1 but competent at all and that makes it fun.

So i say to all you out there maybe tolerance would be something you should all practice, for the game would'nt be better if it changed we need all aspects to make it what it is.

 

[TonyJoey]

Non-existant?   

I seem to remember seeing a great screenshot of you talking crap to someone on 200 and he proceeded to take out your whole set of bombers...

He was talking crap to me all night too, and IIRC the score against his bombers was TJ-8, TwentyFo-0

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