F3 view

[Ack-Ack]

They are recorded. Fly a Il-2 in bomber mode and kill some planes and you will see. No difference between fixed guns and turret guns.

BTW, the stats page does always record all kills, regardless of which scoring category the pilot had selected.

Thanks for clearing it up.


ack-ack

[RipChord929]

Then they've changed it again!!  A year or so back, it did show on scorecard...
Then all of a sudden it didn't show anymore..   Now it does again?   Huh, weird?!

[Lusche]

Was getting unsure, so I just went to LW and scored a A2A kill in a A20. Shows up both on scoresheet as well on stats.

[RipChord929]

In Bomber mode???, If you say it, I'll believe it.... But just makin sure!!!

[Lusche]

In Bomber mode???,

The two A20 sorties (the first one was aborted on spawn due to bad fuel selection) were my first and only 2 sorties in bomber mode this tour.
The 5 attack kills have been a single P-51D sortie.

[RipChord929]

OK, cool, thx man!!!    LOL, I'm not crazy, it DIDN'T SHOW before... No BS!!!

[Lusche]

I just noticed.. only about 2 1/2 hours of flight time in 4 days of this tour 

[AWwrgwy]

Then they've changed it again!!  A year or so back, it did show on scorecard...
Then all of a sudden it didn't show anymore..   Now it does again?   Huh, weird?!

They do not count towards your score but they've always been there. 

When you go to the Stats section, the last box, and click in "kills" you get the number of kills per week in each plane you got kills in.  At the very bottom is "Total Kills", "Total Kills towards Rank", and "Total Kills not counted towards Rank".  The latter were some of those bomber kills.


wrongway

[StokesAk]

I would think that the rear view would be unobstructed in A20's and Il2's if this were to happen.

[lyric1]

The A-20 had a ventral gun station (behind and below the turret) not modeled by HTC (they didn't have any photos at the time, but do now). This was a door that opened and the gunner could see over vertical and horizontal arcs of about 120 degrees. There are also small oval windows on either side of the gunner's position allowing for visibility to the sides.

See the photos below.

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My regards,

Widewing

You have to like a guy that can back up things with facts. 

[shreck]

Now I know you're just trolling. Gunning in F3 is very hard because you have no reference points. You have to move your camera around the fusage to see in front of you, otherwise you're just seeing the tail of your aircraft and it obstructs your view. 

Also isn't odd that I just looked up score for tour 114 and you have no kills while flying a bomber...how odd. And your Tour 115 score also shows no kills in a bomber either....hrm. (this is unless I typed in the wrong handle in which case point me in the right direction and I'll stand corrected.)

The only shot that is "more" difficult is the straight6 shot in F3 view cause your plane is in the way! But if your plane is covering the target then just "pull the trigger!! Lead and snap shots are far easier, when firing in F3 view you have full"out of plane" view! Pulling lead is much superior cause you are not having to deal with the target disapearing under your nose! F3 view takes away sooooo many of the variables compared to being in the seat!

Not a troll! just how I see it

[Rich46yo]

Actually I've found, after a couple hops shooting from F3 view is extremely easy, and quite superior than in the seat!!!
Your ability to set-up and anticipate the snap shot is much improved over the same opportunity in the seat!
If you have problems shooting from F3, I don't believe you!!  you're hiding something

So what arena, when,using what plane, and against what planes did you rack up this amazing F3/guns slaughter?

[shreck]

So what arena, when,using what plane, and against what planes did you rack up this amazing F3/guns slaughter?

Cmon, honestly you can't shoot in F3 as much as you use it? Lets be frank here  (sorry frank) For me shooting in F3 has been a problem in the past, but recently I actually gave it some attention and for the life of me, I cannot believe anyone who uses F3 regularly could not see the ease and superior nature of gunning in F3! It boggles the mind! 

Woah to the person who tries to B&Z an il2 that is in F3 view   

Aren't you the same guy who said "il2s are terrible for HOing" ?   

[Rich46yo]

So your not going to answer the question?

Your at a point now where you are babbling nonsense. Once again, where and when have you shot down enemy planes using the F3 view of an attack plane"?

Cmon, honestly you can't shoot in F3 as much as you use it? Lets be frank here  (sorry frank) For me shooting in F3 has been a problem in the past, but recently I actually gave it some attention and for the life of me, I cannot believe anyone who uses F3 regularly could not see the ease and superior nature of gunning in F3! It boggles the mind! 

Woah to the person who tries to B&Z an il2 that is in F3 view   

Aren't you the same guy who said "il2s are terrible for HOing" ?   

[shreck]

So your not going to answer the question?

Your at a point now where you are babbling nonsense. Once again, where and when have you shot down enemy planes using the F3 view of an attack plane"?

You tell us, obviously you are so affected by this thread that you are probably ATM scrutinizing my score records (which you have done before) "as if it matters" so please enlighten us 

I already said I was in TT with JU88 over the weekend! Shooting in F3 was very easy indeed  Now killing cons with the peeeeeshooter is quite a different story