Verdict on the P-47M?

[LLogann]

I think Lazerr should fly a few Jugs before making silly statements. 

He sounds like I usually sound.  But when I do it, it's usually on purpose to generate a few angry replies. 

Maybe that's what he is doing...........

Certainly couldn't be anything else.

[Lazerr]

I think Lazerr should fly a few Jugs before making silly statements. 

He sounds like I usually sound.  But when I do it, it's usually on purpose to generate a few angry replies. 

Maybe that's what he is doing...........

Certainly couldn't be anything else.

Not sure who you are... fail.

[LLogann]

I'm your father silly little kid. 

Go ask the M word.

(Is that PC?)

[Anaxogoras]

I finally understand why the P-47M was needed in AH...

...Some of your egos just might fit inside it.

[dev1ant]

Not sure who you are... fail.

Epic Fail.

[LLogann]

 

Epic Fail.

Yeah! What he said!

[killnu]

Lazer,
I have beaten several 38s with the M.  You are a rather good 38 stick and I forgot just how the bird can fly when in certain hands.  I wouldnt mind doing that all over again...now that  I have some time in the M....remember, you have been flying 38 for a while longer.  It may not be any different...but I know that the 38 itself is not untouchable by an M...the pilot element plays a big part....of course you know that.

[Widewing]

Why test with the smallest gun package allowed?  Did you test all of the aircraft with 25% fuel, or just the 47M?

HTC's own chart for climbrate seems to better represent the typical combat loadouts for these aircraft:

25% fuel was used for my test on all aircraft.

HTC performance figures reflect normal internal fuel; IE: Full tanks.


My regards,

Widewing

[Anaxogoras]

25% fuel was used for my test on all aircraft.

HTC performance figures reflect normal internal fuel; IE: Full tanks.


My regards,

Widewing

Ok, thanks for the clarification.

[Rich46yo]

And how many heavy D-11s do we see?

I wasnt just talking about D11s. I was also talking about Mustangs, see below.

FYI, the P-38J and Ta-152 (1.64 and 1.65) once again have the highest unperked K/D ratios this tour, and that's with over 8000 kills+deaths for the P-38J.

TA-152 shouldnt count. Very few fly it and the ones who do are often very good in it. It isnt, and never will be, a fighter for the masses.

BELOW

The K/D ratios of the P-47D-40 and P-47N have dropped lower than I've ever seen them before, both <.7.  What we're seeing are the effects of people who almost always fly a fighter light, vs the fighters that are flown as bomb trucks, e.g. F4U-1A is above 1.3.  In the main arena, the P-51D might the most popular bomb truck of all.

Naw. It aint. About all I ever see Mustang do is come into a base, vulch the runway, and then speed away at warp-10. They might fire rockets but for the most part thats about it. I'd say the P-38L is far more popular and then Hellcats/Corsairs.

I dont count the "M" as uber. I just think its very good and a nice addition. A good stick anywheres near co-Alt, most of all in a P-38 or 109,190,, Spit...ect, is going to try and get you in a climb/turn dual. I think it does better then the other Jugs but its still a Jug.

I'll pass on the cartoon airplane wars. My real life is far to serious to take my cartoon life that seriously.

[Lazerr]

Lazer,
I have beaten several 38s with the M.  You are a rather good 38 stick and I forgot just how the bird can fly when in certain hands.  I wouldnt mind doing that all over again...now that  I have some time in the M....remember, you have been flying 38 for a while longer.  It may not be any different...but I know that the 38 itself is not untouchable by an M...the pilot element plays a big part....of course you know that.

Your right, but your an above average cartoon pilot yourself.  I dont think many playing right now would push both planes much harder.  Maybe some of the oldschool guys that have been here awhile.  The new breed has yet to push the limits of even the la7.

[Lazerr]

Yeah! What he said!

Epic Fail.

I finally understand why the P-47M was needed in AH...

...Some of your egos just might fit inside it.

Not sure if any of you three understand the game.  Its okay, it'll come with time.

[TUK]

Dont fly the P47M much, perhaps 1 sortie i think. I have engauged quite a few over the last 2 -3 weeks. I fly mostly 51's and Spits, truly amazed at the M's ability to get a shot on me..
I've done some MAJOR  stick moves to get out that way of diving M's, they usually get a hit everytime.    Just my opinion of what I've seen. 

[Anaxogoras]

Not sure if any of you three understand the game.  Its okay, it'll come with time.

You mean the forum game where vainglory and reputation stand in for thought?  I'm all too familiar with it.

[PK1Mw]

The M is a good plane. Everyone agrees on that. What everyone doesn't agree on is: where its good at. and how good is it.. really?

Just like all planes, you're going to have a few people that do very well in it otd; like Laz and KillnU pointed out before, pilot skill is a BIG factor. You put a guy otd like Nomde that has flown jugs for as long as he has, he's probably going to do a lot better than most of us that are just learning the plane, regardless of which model it is.