Perking Spit 16

[Ack-Ack]

And you've been playing how long?

My guess the same amount of time as the OP and also probably tired of getting his bellybutton handed to him by Spitfire drivers.


ack-ack

[Plawranc]

My argument is this.

While I may be a Spitdweeb and fly the 16 quite often. I recognize that it is easy. However, just to say someone is not skilled just because they fly it is just plain untrue. I fly all spits and the 16 strikes me as the best, while the Spit 8 is my favourite and the Spit 9 is just plain awesome. If you are gonna fight in MA you need something that is not perked that can catch LA-7's and 109's and the 16 fits that bill as a fast, tight turning killing machine.

Put a noob in it and he stands a chance. Put a pro in it and you have to work for a kill. Put someone who knows it inside and out and your prob gonna end up on a chute.

I can fly any plane well but the Spit is my plane of choice, by the logic being presented in this thread you are indicating that The Few: which has Bruv and Kazaa or 71st RAF which have Niros1 and Batfink are skilless because they are spit pilots. I am just curious to see how long you last with them in a TBM!! and you in a Spixteen.

B6Pacman

[Scotty55OEFVet]

AMEN SLAP, AMEN!!!

[PJ_Godzilla]

My argument is this.

While I may be a Spitdweeb and fly the 16 quite often. I recognize that it is easy. However, just to say someone is not skilled just because they fly it is just plain untrue. I fly all spits and the 16 strikes me as the best, while the Spit 8 is my favourite and the Spit 9 is just plain awesome.
B6Pacman

Heh, heh... I've been flying the IX lately as a result of this thread.

You all, I'm sure, know how easy it can be, especially for a relatively new toon pilot like myself (and I mean cartoon, not Comrade Toon) to get victimized by the same klown over and over. Such was the case with me and Shiv. He killed me twice over the past couple of weeks. Both times, the scenario was similar - 1v1 with a Co-alt HO merge, I in an N1K2, he in his Corsair. Each time, he'd work a low speed turn and eventually end up on my 6. Well, last night, I encountered him from the seat of a Spit IX. This time, right after the merge, I looked at my airspeed, verified that it was a little over 3 hundee true, pulled straight up, flopped her over, rolled upright, dove, and fired a lead burst. BOOM. No more shiv.

I was so proud I posted some pics of "little Zilla" up on a free photo hosting site. Behold the one-eyed Monster, people, say I. 

This BBS is f*ckin' great.

[Masherbrum]

And you've been playing how long?

IIRC, Wing47 is in Ruler2's squad.   

       The Spixteen is a uber plane and if you have ever flown a P-51, 109, P-38 all those skill oriented
planes. It does tend to be tougher than other birds. However, usually(please don't take this personally)
the pilots are easy to beat. Sure its good if your a noob but it affects the learning curve. Its just too
dang easy to fly. Not to mention only 24 hours of logged combat sorties. So I agree the Spit 16 should
be perked to a certain extent, only to discouage its use (its all people fly). +1 THRASH

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key word GOOD FOR NOOBS

Looking at your stats since last year, you should hop in the Spixteen.   For you to even mention "noob" to someone other than yourself is uncalled for.   My suggestion, get with a Trainer.

[LLogann]

Let's remember the difference between Noob & Newb...........


That Newb is clearly not a Noob........




Just saying.

[PJ_Godzilla]

See Rule #4

[uptown]

Spit16s are great fighters but one of the main flaws people have with them is they think they can't be beat. I rope and kill more 16s than any other i'd guess. Yes they outclimb a 51 but most spit are not paying attention to my E state or his. Most spit16 guys are fairly new to the game and can be tricked in to a mistake fairly easy.

Same goes for the 51 guys too. I probably kill more 16s & 51s then any other planes in the game. Simpily because the're so predictable. Don't hesitate to get in their and mix it up with them. When you can get beat one in a turn fight or blast him in a overshoot,that will put a smile on your face like no other 

I used to want the spixteen perked too, seemed as it was the only plane on my arse most of the time. But the more they killed me the more i learned about what they could and couldn't do.

[PJ_Godzilla]

I recall a recent thread where people were complaining about its top end being so low... go figure.

[shiv]

Heh, heh... I've been flying the IX lately as a result of this thread.

You all, I'm sure, know how easy it can be, especially for a relatively new toon pilot like myself (and I mean cartoon, not Comrade Toon) to get victimized by the same klown over and over. Such was the case with me and Shiv. He killed me twice over the past couple of weeks. Both times, the scenario was similar - 1v1 with a Co-alt HO merge, I in an N1K2, he in his Corsair. Each time, he'd work a low speed turn and eventually end up on my 6. Well, last night, I encountered him from the seat of a Spit IX. This time, right after the merge, I looked at my airspeed, verified that it was a little over 3 hundee true, pulled straight up, flopped her over, rolled upright, dove, and fired a lead burst. BOOM. No more shiv.

I was so proud I posted some pics of "little Zilla" up on a free photo hosting site. Behold the one-eyed Monster, people, say I. 

This BBS is f*ckin' great.

Lol, <S> Zilla, I remember that fight being over real quick,  Nice work.  You'll get better and better too as you always fight.  Some guys run the other way from a 1v1. That's no way to learn.

Now perk the Spit IX!

[grizz441]

I can fly any plane well

Prove it.

[PJ_Godzilla]

Lol, <S> Zilla, I remember that fight being over real quick,  Nice work.  You'll get better and better too as you always fight.  Some guys run the other way from a 1v1. That's no way to learn.

Now perk the Spit IX!

Shiv lives! Thanks. It's great to trade post to the real person. I have to admit, I held a goal in my head of "one day shooting down shiv". I am no match for you in an N1K2 - in the Spit, I went for surprise with the vertical departure after the merge - since people here talk about it as the "begged question" of Shaw, et al. 

I also have to admit, I'm a little nervous about what you're going to pull on me next time you see me. I'll be up for it, though - at least as a learning experience.

Thanks for being an honorable, dangerous, and worthy 1v1    - I agree entirely with your take on running being no way to learn.

I'm also a bit mystified by the Corsair. I was using one the other day, deploying flaps for low speed turns. The thing I can't get over is the 6 view. One of my Ford buddies tells me that you have to look aft from the side. I seem to recall the canopy as bulging on the sides. However, I have a really hard time doing this with my TrackIR. I wonder if I should set a hat position to that view instead. I like the apparent thought process behind the airplane - uber flaps for low speed handling and the big radial for top end. I just can't wield it yet. It also seems to be a bit short on climb rate (exception for the C-Hawg? - I don't spend perks much). Anyway, I figure you can answer those questions since you seem to know what you're doing with that thing.

[shiv]

Shiv lives! Thanks. It's great to trade post to the real person. I have to admit, I held a goal in my head of "one day shooting down shiv". I am no match for you in an N1K2 - in the Spit, I went for surprise with the vertical departure after the merge - since people here talk about it as the "begged question" of Shaw, et al. 

I also have to admit, I'm a little nervous about what you're going to pull on me next time you see me. I'll be up for it, though - at least as a learning experience.

Thanks for being an honorable, dangerous, and worthy 1v1    - I agree entirely with your take on running being no way to learn.

I'm also a bit mystified by the Corsair. I was using one the other day, deploying flaps for low speed turns. The thing I can't get over is the 6 view. One of my Ford buddies tells me that you have to look aft from the side. I seem to recall the canopy as bulging on the sides. However, I have a really hard time doing this with my TrackIR. I wonder if I should set a hat position to that view instead. I like the apparent thought process behind the airplane - uber flaps for low speed handling and the big radial for top end. I just can't wield it yet. It also seems to be a bit short on climb rate (exception for the C-Hawg? - I don't spend perks much). Anyway, I figure you can answer those questions since you seem to know what you're doing with that thing.

  Zilla.  Thanks for the kind words but I'm in the same boat as you believe me, there's guys in here shoot me down most every time I fight them, so it's a bit of a vicious cycle   But it's always fun fighting them.

I don't use TrackIR but I have heard of issues with it and the the hog.  Discussion about it right now in Help & Training in fact-
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,284094.0.html

You're right about the climb rate though, it's bad in all the hogs ( except for the perked F4U-4, which really has no weaknesses.) The C-Hog is perked only because of its guns - 4 20MM cannon.  It's actually a little bit slower than the 1A.  The acceleration isn't that great in the hogs either.

I'm still a student of the plane but in short you need some speed when entering a fight.  That way you can hang with him when he goes up.  If you don't have the speed though it's not much of a problem fighting from behind, as the hog is great at dodging and barrel-rolling.   Just blow through the merge, get some speed up and start working him off your 6. The main issue there is having the discipline not to get suckered into a rope by climbing for a shot. you can't make.  I find I only learn that by bitter experience 

Hope that helps.    Cya up sir.
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[saantana]

I possibly being the biggest spit 16 dweeb in the game hereby give my answer to this thread.

[uptown]

Last night a dedicated spixteen pilot got his arse handed to him by a spit9 in 2 turns The 16 doesn't need a perk value but that spit9.....wow! What a beast that thing is