Perking Spit 16

[Karnak]

Since when is the P-38 a "fast" plane?  If the P-38 is on the list of fast planes, then the Mk XVI is most assuredly there too.  As is the Ki-84.

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all the yaks  will do is try high speed circles ( you know the c205 thingy ), when that doesn't work, they will dive and run like hell.  same for f4u's except f4u will hover above everybody and pick or try to rope then dive away and run.  there's a few people that will actually dogfite in fast planes f4u's, la7's p38's, ponies, etc. but most will run when encountering the spits.  somebody really wants to show some skill, get a spit, hurricane, zero or whichever plane you prefer get a couple of kills and survive without running.  now that's skill.  not just roping or picking a bunch of guys, that's just patience (boring, I call it).   but perk or no perk some people are glad when they see a spit around to save/help when needed  .

semp

even if you do this they will, complain your in  hurri, and when you attack numbers they still complain

[Karnak]

even if you do this they will, complain your in  hurri, and when you attack numbers they still complain

You do know that you can be aggressive without using luftberry circle tactics, yes?

Most P-51 drivers are unaware of that and instead "extend" a sector or two.  They don't gain adequate separation to initiate their next attack, they run until the "target" gives up and turns for something else.  The best thing for them is to actually wait for the "target" to engage in another fight.  If they get the "target" like that they crow on 200 about how skilled they are.  If the get shot down, they make excuses about the "target" flying an "easymode" airplane.

I have killed many of them by chasing for a short time, then turning and presenting my 6 to them to get them to turn around.

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You do know that you can be aggressive without using luftberry circle tactics, yes?

Most P-51 drivers are unaware of that and instead "extend" a sector or two.  They don't gain adequate separation to initiate their next attack, they run until the "target" gives up and turns for something else.  The best thing for them is to actually wait for the "target" to engage in another fight.  If they get the "target" like that they crow on 200 about how skilled they are.  If the get shot down, they make excuses about the "target" flying an "easymode" airplane.

I have killed many of them by chasing for a short time, then turning and presenting my 6 to them to get them to turn around.

of course

[PJ_Godzilla]

You do know that you can be aggressive without using luftberry circle tactics, yes?

Not to give you a hard time, K, but I feel compelled to correct this "luftberry" thing, since it's turning into common parlance and is inaccurate. The correct spelling is "Lufbery" with a cap and no t, no second r (it's not a breakfast cereal), so named after famous Lafayette Escadrille pilot Raoul Lufbery.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raoul_Lufbery

[RTHolmes]

seems to be a bit of confusion over the usage of lufbery (circle) too.  A "lufbery circle" is a circling the wagons defensive technique for buffs or other slow aircraft, and is so easily defeated as to be almost worthless in AH. A single aircraft cannot perform a "lufbery circle".

I hear people refer to "a lufbery" while in 1v1s and never quite sure what they mean. chandelle maybe? or perhaps a sustained spiral climb?

[WMLute]

Always bugged me as well.

One plane can not do a lufberry.






I'm curious what move Karnak thinks a Lufberry is.

[THRASH99]

Not true. You fly the La-7 in the late war arenas as well, don't lie and claim otherwise.  It is very easy to check to see what plane you've flown each tour.


ack-ack

I use it when the stupid ENY is to high, but I'm not a person who flys it all day long, plus I can't even see out of the damn thing, the engine takes up some of your view

[THRASH99]

P-51D...... skill plane?

 

Fastest and one of the heaviest fighters in the game. There is a reason it is named 'The Runstang'

If you haven't noticed, most of the tards who fly P-51 in the Main Arena suck. There are only 10% of the pilots who actually know how to dogfight in it without having to ho and/or pick. That's why when you see the tards flying, they'll always run from you, unlike a good pilot, he'll turn back around to engage and not run like a wimp.

[gpwurzel]

Man, this has GOT to be a windup.

So let me get this right, whoever flies the spit xvi is a tard, because they keep shooting you down, whilst by your own admission you only fly the la7 and the p51? Both planes are fast, good guns (once you get used to the la7 anyway) but you feel the need to insult the newbies who fly the 16 (not even going into the vet flying it debate).

Exactly what would you like them to fly? The xvi gives them a fighting chance, its not a wonder bird, it can be outflown by a lot of planes ingame already, but it does give newer players a fighting chance. Without the newer players sticking around, all your going to run into is vets, who, trust me on this, will hand you your head in a very short space of time (not including myself in this area btw, cant fly to save me life). This will lead to other players leaving as they cant beat the really good sticks, and the game runs the risk of stagnation. Not something I'd look forward too personally.


I salute whoever this really is lol..........


Wurzel

[Ack-Ack]

seems to be a bit of confusion over the usage of lufbery (circle) too.  A "lufbery circle" is a circling the wagons defensive technique for buffs or other slow aircraft, and is so easily defeated as to be almost worthless in AH. A single aircraft cannot perform a "lufbery circle".

I hear people refer to "a lufbery" while in 1v1s and never quite sure what they mean. chandelle maybe? or perhaps a sustained spiral climb?

People use "Lufbery" to describe a one circle fight between two planes, i.e. two planes chasing each other in a circle.


ack-ack

[Ack-Ack]

If you haven't noticed, most of the tards who fly P-51 in the Main Arena suck. There are only 10% of the pilots who actually know how to dogfight in it without having to ho and/or pick. That's why when you see the tards flying, they'll always run from you, unlike a good pilot, he'll turn back around to engage and not run like a wimp.

Looking at your stats, I would say that you're one of 'the 'tards who why fly P-51 in the Main Arena suck" yourself.  Remember, when you point fingers, you have four pointing right back at you.


ack-ack

[Karnak]

People use "Lufbery" to describe a one circle fight between two planes, i.e. two planes chasing each other in a circle.


ack-ack

This is the context I was using it in.  I know it is not correct, but it has been come the term used on this forum for a horizontal turn fight.

[stodd]

Spixteen is easy mode, but I wouldn't go as far as perking it.... *Ducks*

[Ack-Ack]

This is the context I was using it in.  I know it is not correct, but it has been come the term used on this forum for a horizontal turn fight.

It's been used to describe a one circle tail chase even back as far as AW.  We tend to "evolve" a word in the flight sim community, like we've done with "buff".  We use that word when we're talking about any bomber even though "buff" is an acronym that is specific to the B-52.  Lufbery is the same, and when someone uses in the proper context it will usually be written as a 'defensive lufbery'.


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