TOPGUN acm

[MachFly]

that reversal in the movie.

Not really. Did not see anything special.
It was a good movie, but I don't remember any really good maneuvers that I liked. 
Maybe you can refresh my memory.

[stealth]

Well there was the reversal where he went up cut throttle the guy passed by he got the shot.The other one was where iceman broke right went down came over top,was very briefly showed though.

I'm looking for fighter formation pictures like the finger four.Ones like that.

[SPKmes]

Well there was the reversal where he went up cut throttle the guy passed by he got the shot.The other one was where iceman broke right went down came over top,was very briefly showed though.

I'm looking for fighter formation pictures like the finger four.Ones like that.

I believe that maneuver is the cobra....it is possible but you do need speed for this to work..

[MachFly]

I believe that maneuver is the cobra....it is possible but you do need speed for this to work..

The way I understand it is you need thrust vectoring to do that. So I don't believe it's a cobra, I think he just opened the airbrakes to let him pass.

[MachFly]

Well there was the reversal where he went up cut throttle the guy passed by he got the shot.The other one was where iceman broke right went down came over top,was very briefly showed though.

I'm looking for fighter formation pictures like the finger four.Ones like that.

I remember that. That was not a reversal, that's why I asked.

[stealth]

Anyways what's a combat tactic you guys use often. Know any fighter formations please I'm desperate need stuff for swoops epic missions.

[EskimoJoe]

You guys know what this thread smells of?

"I'm gonna hit the brakes and he'll fly right by!"

 

[MachFly]

Anyways what's a combat tactic you guys use often.

That depends on the situation.

Know any fighter formations please I'm desperate need stuff for swoops epic missions.

Back when I was the CO, in FSO I would keep my squad 200-800yards away from each other. That allows every pilot to maintain good SA, as there is no friendly aircraft near you blocking you field of view. Also when there is someone diving on you that you (or the squad) does not see, and you notice him at the last moment and break, he can't just go for someone else as the aircraft are not right next to each other.
I would not recommend you use any specific formation because that required accurate altitude control, heading, and power settings. If you do want to use close formations I suggest you practice in the training arena with the people who your going to be flying with.

Do not take offense by this but by what I see here I do not think your ready to lead such a specific (for the lack of a better term) mission. It's not my call but I would not be quite comfortable following you just yet.

Good Luck

[FireDrgn]

I disagree a bit with your final question, its not a perfect world in Aces High so your gunna have someone get there sooner or later no matter what you do. I think thats the difference between the "alright" sticks and the "good" sticks. The good sticks will get that random plane off their six most of the time where as the alright stick gets shot down once someone is on their six.

BTW I know me personally I give people my six just so they will attack my plane. I know I can get them into a fight from there

You have made a true statment. The differance is im trying to get stealth to see the picture from the begining of the fight not just after he steps init. Plus +++++How did he get on my six? covers both questions.             
If he would take a film of his fights and review them....... The better question is How did he get on my six?   He is never going to figure it out looking at the film asking now what do i do?


Btw  flat turn beats the split S---- stealth.


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[crazyivan]

You guys know what this thread smells of?

"I'm gonna hit the brakes and he'll fly right by!"

 

YOU'RE GONNA DO WHAT?

[stealth]

The maneuvers I do is because I know them real well.Besides you can't think,if you do your dead.

[JunkyII]

The maneuvers I do is because I know them real well.Besides you can't think,if you do your dead.

Disagree, I normally think about alot of things. Like when I am dive bombing a field, I go pass the field and then come in......so when I come out I can set up a rope for the friendly cons coming in

[stealth]

Disagree, I normally think about alot of things. Like when I am dive bombing a field, I go pass the field and then come in......so when I come out I can set up a rope for the friendly cons coming in

I stole that from topgun man isn't that what were all doing. Also I disagree with my post to,you can always think,besides a pilot is able to take all the events that happened to see what he has learned. That's also from topgun.

[MachFly]

I stole that from topgun man isn't that what were all doing. Also I disagree with my post to,you can always think,besides a pilot is able to take all the events that happened to see what he has learned. That's also from topgun.

If you disagree with it why would you post it? Just think for your self and stop taking random phrases from a movie.

[Mace2004]

Please, please, please, please, please, please.......do NOT even think about using the movie Topgun as a training aide.  An aileron roll isn't a good guns defense, you can't get into a flat spin over land and "head out to sea", all four cats never go down at the same time on a CVN, there isn't a crumb of good ACM information in it, there's no Topgun Trophy, no written tests, no grades, appropriate uniform in the Miramar O'Club bar was flight suits, not tropical whites, there are no stocking-wearing civilian Topgun "instructor" bimbos, and, if there were, I would not need to be told that "she's a civilian so you don't salute her" and I'd beeotch slap her for opening her mouth during a TACTS debrief.  Other than that, it's a fine movie.