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Offline Wildcat1

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Re: Putin Says we are better than you
« Reply #60 on: June 21, 2010, 06:06:26 AM »
See Rule #14
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Re: Putin Says we are better than you
« Reply #61 on: June 21, 2010, 09:40:37 AM »
See Rule #14
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Re: Putin Says we are better than you
« Reply #62 on: June 21, 2010, 10:14:51 AM »
I cant really make a comment on either aircraft since Im not a jet fighter junky, but this I know:

I have full faith and confidence in the U.S. and allied pilots (NATO), and the aircraft we will field to combat and defeat anything the Russians, Chinese, Iranians, North Koreans, or other such threat will bring to the table.  Training and professionalism will always prevail over new toys and in-adeptness.  
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Re: Putin Says we are better than you
« Reply #63 on: June 21, 2010, 10:51:14 AM »
oops..... just got ye olde flag :uhoh

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Re: Putin Says we are better than you
« Reply #64 on: June 21, 2010, 11:46:40 AM »
skuzzy back..

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Re: Putin Says we are better than you
« Reply #65 on: June 21, 2010, 12:25:36 PM »
Quote from: MORAY37 on June 20, 2010, 07:22:37 PM


Japan's airpower was second to none in 1940, particularly its' naval force.  Best fighter in the Pacific Theater, best trained aircrews all around.

By 1943 revised tactics and training, along with proper use of airframes had reversed this.



I'm sorry but you really need to learn some facts about the Imperial Japanese airforces and how they were beaten.  You are so far off the mark it's amazing.  Stick to something you know like counting pregnant sea turtles because WW2 is not one of those areas.


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Re: Putin Says we are better than you
« Reply #66 on: June 21, 2010, 07:22:02 PM »
Quote from: Ack-Ack on June 21, 2010, 12:25:36 PM
I'm sorry but you really need to learn some facts about the Imperial Japanese airforces and how they were beaten.  You are so far off the mark it's amazing.  Stick to something you know like counting pregnant sea turtles because WW2 is not one of those areas.


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Re: Putin Says we are better than you
« Reply #67 on: June 21, 2010, 08:12:47 PM »
Sorry, but the russians copied the B-29 and the sturmgewehr.


Where else did they get the Tu-2 and the kalashnikov. Hell, they used the panzerfaust as the idea for their RPG's.
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Re: Putin Says we are better than you
« Reply #68 on: June 21, 2010, 09:26:28 PM »
Do you have any evidence for the sturmgewehr > kalashnikov and panzerfaust > RPG?

I'm curious
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Re: Putin Says we are better than you
« Reply #69 on: June 21, 2010, 09:51:28 PM »
Quote from: Nemisis on June 21, 2010, 08:12:47 PM
Sorry, but the russians copied the B-29 and the sturmgewehr.


Where else did they get the Tu-4 and the kalashnikov. Hell, they used the panzerfaust as the idea for their RPG's.

corrected :aok
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Re: Putin Says we are better than you
« Reply #70 on: June 21, 2010, 10:21:13 PM »
Quote from: Wildcat1 on June 21, 2010, 09:51:28 PM
Quote from: Nemisis on June 21, 2010, 08:12:47 PM
Sorry, but the russians copied the B-29 and the sturmgewehr.


Where else did they get the Tu-4 and the kalashnikov. Hell, they used the panzerfaust as the idea for their RPG's.
corrected :aok

B-29 had to do an emergency landing in Russia. When Russians returned in to the US each part had it's own box, literally (at least according to what I was told, don't quote me on this).
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Re: Putin Says we are better than you
« Reply #71 on: June 21, 2010, 11:19:38 PM »
If they did copy the Sturm Gewehr and the Panzerfuast, they greatly improved both weapons.
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Re: Putin Says we are better than you
« Reply #72 on: June 22, 2010, 12:30:16 AM »
They did improve them, I WILL give them that much.

Tu-4 was pretty much a B-29, so they get no credit for improvment there.
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Re: Putin Says we are better than you
« Reply #73 on: June 22, 2010, 01:10:23 AM »
Quote from: MachFly on June 21, 2010, 09:26:28 PM
Do you have any evidence for the sturmgewehr > kalashnikov and panzerfaust > RPG?

I'm curious

Look at all 4 weapons.....pretty obvious dood. :rofl
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Re: Putin Says we are better than you
« Reply #74 on: June 22, 2010, 03:08:02 AM »
Quote from: BillyD on June 22, 2010, 01:10:23 AM
Look at all 4 weapons.....pretty obvious dood. :rofl

Same thing as I said last time, Mig-15 & F-86

If it looks the same does not mean it's a copy.
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