HTC give us the choice!!!!!!

[SlapShot]

lol

If someone doesn't like something, they don't like something. 

The forum is full of people telling others they are wrong.  Wrong for not liking something and that by not liking something, they will be ignored AND it will not have any effect on the game.

Open a restaurant and tell your customers what they will like, cater to the drunks that show up everyday, and see how long you stay in biz.

  ... This has nothing to do with what I quoted you on and responded to.

[Glen69]

With games such as IL2 sat in the wings waiting to take your £130 a year paying gamers from you. Can you say in confidence that with all the opposition to this DAR change amongst the forums, is to change the MA for the better? For the perk collecting rank caring fighters, maybe..

Some squads quite clearly enjoy land grabbing war winning NOE missions, and some (one myself) like escorting these NOE missions. By taking such a drastic measure to 'impact' NOE missions and their game. Do you not feel that you might be gaining resentment from those players, as you've taken an enjoyable element out of the game?
 
Is it not the responsibility for the opposing countries to formulate better tactics against NOE mission players, rather than just trying to make out they don't like a flight?

Any one else get the feeling the Objective Squad Mission gamers are being punished? 
Having the choice between new DAR and old DAR rooms is a good compromise. At least the forum would clear up for a while and there would be

[Ack-Ack]

 Just because HT made a change, dosn't mean it was for the best. And I think you missed the point..AGAIN.

So far, I haven't seen any negatives to the changes and has been a positive change for the game play.  The added bonus are all the whines it's generated.


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[Ack-Ack]

btw not saying I'm a huge fan on NOE missions, just something different to do.  Now it's not there. 

It is there, you can still do NOE missions, that option has not been removed.  The problem with you and others is you do not want to adapt to the changes and want the status quo to remain because it was easier for you.  Now that you actually might have to work at flying a NOE missions and *GASP* face the very likely prospect of having to fight, you guys are screaming to high Heaven about how you can't NOE anymore.  As I told someone else, adapt or get off the pot.


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[Masherbrum]

So far, I haven't seen any negatives to the changes and has been a positive change for the game play.  The added bonus are all the whines it's generated.


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Dale's laughing as much as we are. 

[Baumer]

So you are being "punished" since they made a change to the game that allows others a little more time to defend a target. What % of players should just sit and wait in the tower, trying to find the next incoming NOE raid? In my experience (both flying in, and against them) most of the well organized NOE raids could go from base flash, to base capture, within 7-9 minutes. That did not allow much time for any real defense even if someone tried to defend it.

As Hitech stated, prior to these changes he felt that the old settings promoted an "offensive only" environment when it came to win the war, land grabbing. Now it will hopefully be more balanced with more opportunity to defend attacks is all. This does not stop anyone from focusing on capturing bases, it just means it may be harder to do in the future is all.

All HTC is trying to do is create a balanced environment where ALL forms of aerial combat and tactics can be used.


 


 

 

[Ack-Ack]

With games such as IL2 sat in the wings waiting to take your £130 a year paying gamers from you. Can you say in confidence that with all the opposition to this DAR change amongst the forums, is to change the MA for the better? For the perk collecting rank caring fighters, maybe..

IL2 has been out for a long time already, and it hasn't impacted AH since it's been around.  Bad analogy.

Some squads quite clearly enjoy land grabbing war winning NOE missions, and some (one myself) like escorting these NOE missions. By taking such a drastic measure to 'impact' NOE missions and their game. Do you not feel that you might be gaining resentment from those players, as you've taken an enjoyable element out of the game?

The option to run a NOE mission or to escort said mission has not been taken away from you at all.  You and your squadron can still run NOE missions and escort them.  The only change is that now you have to actually 'fly' NOE missions and not just hit auto-level at 250ft and fly to the target.  

As I mentioned in the reply to Sincraft, you fly NOE hord missions because it was the easiest way to an undefended base quickly without having to risk facing large opposition, or ideally (in your minds) none at all.  Now that you have to work at it, you're crying how you can't NOE and milk run undefended bases anymore.

The way I see it, you and the others crying about it are nothing but selfish players.  You didn't give a rat's bellybutton that your style of game play was having a negative impact on the over all game play of the main arena, as long as you were able to run your NOE hord missions, capture undefended bases and slap yourselves on the back for rolling as many bases you can in an hour.  HiTech, seeing that there was an issue with the game play that these NOE missions were responsible for made the decision he felt was best for his game (and he was spot on with his resolution).  

Is it not the responsibility for the opposing countries to formulate better tactics against NOE mission players, rather than just trying to make out they don't like a flight?

Is it not the responsibility of you and your "ilk" to learn to adapt to the new changes instead of crying about them on the forums like a petulant child having a temper tantrum because their mommy won't buy a candy bar for them?

Any one else get the feeling the Objective Squad Mission gamers are being punished?  
Having the choice between new DAR and old DAR rooms is a good compromise. At least the forum would clear up for a while and there would be

No, and this statement is as ridiculous as the claims from a few years ago from the mega-squadrons that accused HiTech of being anti-squadron.


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[Masherbrum]

So you are being "punished" since they made a change to the game that allows others a little more time to defend a target. What % of players should just sit and wait in the tower, trying to find the next incoming NOE raid? In my experience (both flying in, and against them) most of the well organized NOE raids could go from base flash, to base capture, within 7-9 minutes. That did not allow much time for any real defense even if someone tried to defend it.

As Hitech stated, prior to these changes he felt that the old settings promoted an "offensive only" environment when it came to win the war, land grabbing. Now it will hopefully be more balanced with more opportunity to defend attacks is all. This does not stop anyone from focusing on capturing bases, it just means it may be harder to do in the future is all.

All HTC is trying to do is create a balanced environment where ALL forms of aerial combat and tactics can be used.

The Happy Meal Generation doesn't want to hear that.    

[Glen69]

IL2 has been out for a long time already, and it hasn't impacted AH since it's been around.  Bad analogy.

The option to run a NOE mission or to escort said mission has not been taken away from you at all.  You and your squadron can still run NOE missions and escort them.  The only change is that now you have to actually 'fly' NOE missions and not just hit auto-level at 250ft and fly to the target.  

As I mentioned in the reply to Sincraft, you fly NOE hord missions because it was the easiest way to an undefended base quickly without having to risk facing large opposition, or ideally (in your minds) none at all.  Now that you have to work at it, you're crying how you can't NOE and milk run undefended bases anymore.

The way I see it, you and the others crying about it are nothing but selfish players.  You didn't give a rat's bellybutton that your style of game play was having a negative impact on the over all game play of the main arena, as long as you were able to run your NOE hord missions, capture undefended bases and slap yourselves on the back for rolling as many bases you can in an hour.  HiTech, seeing that there was an issue with the game play that these NOE missions were responsible for made the decision he felt was best for his game (and he was spot on with his resolution).  


Is it not the responsibility of you and your "ilk" to learn to adapt to the new changes instead of crying about them on the forums like a petulant child having a temper tantrum because their mommy won't buy a candy bar for them?

No, and this statement is as ridiculous as the claims from a few years ago from the mega-squadrons that accused HiTech of being anti-squadron.


ack-ack

Your refusal to see or listen to an opinion by calling names and pointing leads me to illegitemise any of your posts i see..

 So before i break Rule 4 i refuse to engage with you ..again.

[Sincraft]

It is there, you can still do NOE missions, that option has not been removed.  The problem with you and others is you do not want to adapt to the changes and want the status quo to remain because it was easier for you.  Now that you actually might have to work at flying a NOE missions and *GASP* face the very likely prospect of having to fight, you guys are screaming to high Heaven about how you can't NOE anymore.  As I told someone else, adapt or get off the pot.


ack-ack

said the man with almost 15k posts.  My point exactly.  The change catered to 'you' folks.  And who said I was complaining about how I can't NOE anymore?  I just NOE'd into two bases yesterday and dropped their ords.

[Sincraft]

So you are being "punished" since they made a change to the game that allows others a little more time to defend a target. What % of players should just sit and wait in the tower, trying to find the next incoming NOE raid? In my experience (both flying in, and against them) most of the well organized NOE raids could go from base flash, to base capture, within 7-9 minutes. That did not allow much time for any real defense even if someone tried to defend it.

As Hitech stated, prior to these changes he felt that the old settings promoted an "offensive only" environment when it came to win the war, land grabbing. Now it will hopefully be more balanced with more opportunity to defend attacks is all. This does not stop anyone from focusing on capturing bases, it just means it may be harder to do in the future is all.

All HTC is trying to do is create a balanced environment where ALL forms of aerial combat and tactics can be used.


 

Trust me, I would enjoy this moreso than to see all bases vamped via NOE.  Why anyone would sit in the tower waiting for the next NOE is beyond me.  I surely never did that.  I agree the game should be an offensive effort, but drastic changes that completely shut down part of the game for many folks is a bit harsh. 

Heck, why not just get it over with, ONE GIANT radar that also doubles as a depth finder?

[Sincraft]

double post fail sorry

[Ack-Ack]

Your refusal to see or listen to an opinion by calling names and pointing leads me to illegitemise any of your posts i see..

 So before i break Rule 4 i refuse to engage with you ..again.

I see you're continuing to claim that I'm 'name calling' to avoid having to answer the question I originally posed to you, typical behavior of your type.

ack-ack

[Ack-Ack]

said the man with almost 15k posts.  My point exactly.  The change catered to 'you' folks.  And who said I was complaining about how I can't NOE anymore?  I just NOE'd into two bases yesterday and dropped their ords.

The change doesn't cater to anyone.  The change was made solely for game play reasons, nothing else affected HiTech's decision other than that.  He didn't cave into those of us that like to fight, he saw something seriously wrong with the game play caused by these massed NOE hord raids and made the necessary changes to get to improve the general game play of the arena.  From where I stand, his decision caters to all that subscribe to the game, after all, isn't the main objective of this game combat?

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[Wiley]

who said I was complaining about how I can't NOE anymore?  I just NOE'd into two bases yesterday and dropped their ords.

drastic changes that completely shut down part of the game for many folks is a bit harsh.

...wait, what?  Is it shut down, or isn't it shut down?  I'm confused now...

NOE is now tough to do, as it should be.  Flying under radar should not be the path of least resistance.

Everything in this game, to one degree or another is a risk versus reward.  The alt monkey that perches above the fight gets 'rewarded' with survival, but he doesn't generally get as many kills as the guy that's mixing it up in the middle of the fight.  Fighting as a BnZer still takes some attention to the situation, and skill.

Rolling bases NOE under the 500 foot dar limit required the ability to hit autolevel and wait a bit before jaboing with the added bonus that you're undetectable by the other side until the base starts to flash.

I don't think that level of risk should reward you with a virtually undefended base.

Wiley.