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Offline Simon

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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #75 on: August 16, 2010, 03:44:25 PM »
I set everything to high performance individually. If I recall, the HDDs, monitors and NIC are set to sleep by default.

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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #76 on: August 16, 2010, 03:50:12 PM »
For those who are not having any crash issues with Windows 7 64 bit, I need to know what services, if any, you have disabled.

I need to know if it an OEM copy you installed yourself as well.

How about power management settings?
Here Skuzzy, full list of stopped services plus installed Windows updates in PDF format. I have power management set to maximum performance for everything I could dig into and find.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/405468/AH%20Stuff/Gyrene81_Windows%207%20Enterprise%2064.pdf



For anyone who is not familiar with how to get the information, do the following.

Start > Run > msinfo32

Go to software environment > services

Click on the column header state and it will arrange the list by started or stopped and in alphabetical order.

By clicking on the first item marked stopped then scrolling down to the last stopped item then holding down the shift key and clicking on the last stopped item, you can highlight all stopped processes in the list.

CTRL + C will copy the highlighted items to the Windows clipboard so you can paste it into wordpad or MS word.

If you use wordpad, navigate to view then find word wrap and check "wrap to windo" that will at least format the text to somewhat of a columnar setup.

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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #77 on: August 16, 2010, 03:54:00 PM »
By the way, whenever you get this crash, you need to go ahead and hit the button to send a report to Microsoft.
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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #78 on: August 16, 2010, 04:05:41 PM »
I'm using an OEM install of Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium, Superfetch disabled, high performance, and I'm not getting any crashes, aside from the one that I'm suspecting was caused by overheating.


I'm fully updated as well.
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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #79 on: August 16, 2010, 04:09:44 PM »
One other thing, updates.  How many of you are current on Windows updates for the 64 bit version of Windows 7?
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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #80 on: August 16, 2010, 04:21:43 PM »
I'll post my service list in an hour or so.

I re-installed windows and had AH running in it within 20 minutes without any updates what-so-ever and it still had the same app crash.

I've updated windows since then and the problem neither changed, nor went away.
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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #81 on: August 16, 2010, 04:26:23 PM »
When would you say your problems began?
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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #82 on: August 16, 2010, 04:42:23 PM »
I have Windows update set to notify, but I've always installed the updates.

My crashing began the day I subscribed, last Thursday I think, which is why I assumed it was related to skin downloading, although that turned out not to be the case.

When I look at my WU history, it only shows as having installed security updates, all occurring August 10th. In case it's of interest, I installed these updates 8/10:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/983590
" 982799
" 982665
" 982664
" 982214
" 981851
" 980436
" 978886
" 2183461
" 2160329
" 2079403

The problem seems random. I can crash 3 times in an hour and then run for hours with no problem.

I'll try disabling some Windows services tonight. I've been meaning to get around to that one of these days anyway.

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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #83 on: August 16, 2010, 05:02:26 PM »
When would you say your problems began?

I would have to say around August 3rd or so.

Here is the list of services... note, on this format of windows, I installed ESET firewall/virus scanner after I had initally tried AH to be sure that wasn't the cause.

http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/files/delirium/services.txt
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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #84 on: August 16, 2010, 05:41:28 PM »
Just wanted to add my information to the pool here.  For the record, I'm suffering no problems whatsoever with crashes, disconnects, or graphical anomalies.. there are a few sound bugs, but I don't think that has anything to do with what's going on with people here.

I will add that I have Windows 7, Home Premium, 64 bit installed.  I did a fresh install with it from a retail upgrade 3-pack (family pack) I purchased.  Power settings I thought were at high performance, but at one time I installed ASRock's instant boot utility, which apparently added a new power profile I did not notice.  I built this computer myself, and the processor and video cards are slightly overclocked, but running with stock cooling options.

All MS updates were installed (including the large batch a couple of days ago) with no ill-effects.

You can access all of my information, including the complete DXDIAG, Services, Task Manager and the like by clicking on the link below.  These images were taken while running Aces High in the background, with my Track IR and Logitech programming utility running, my headphones plugged in, and my Avast Antivirus running, but having selected "Stop On-Access protection"... basically the same configuration I would be running while playing AH.

Anyways, here's the link:

http://www.lca.ympsa.com/dxdiag
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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #85 on: August 16, 2010, 05:51:01 PM »
My crashes are complete crashes requiring usage of the power button. I have never had any other option. Once it got so far as to tell me I had an error (how kind) but I couldn't view the details as.. it had locked up.

High Performance Power setting, monitor shuts off after 20 mins.
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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #86 on: August 16, 2010, 06:55:59 PM »
Not running into issues here, although I have not gone into Late War arena. I've played Mid-War a couple of times, WWI once, the TDI BOB event Friday evening, and flew the first part of the Phandango frame on Saturday.

I've installed all Windows updates. Anyone checking anti-virus here? An update to one of the big ones could hit a number of people.

Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium Retail Upgrade on a home built system
Running as Standard User, with Microsoft Security Essentials for security
6 GB RAM
GeForce GTX 285 1GB video card (197.45 drives from April)
Xonar DX audio card (also Realtek onboard, active but not in use)
1920x1080 resolution

DXDiag here: http://www.gstelmack.com/DxDiag.txt
Services dump (CSV format) here: http://www.stelmack.com/services.csv (I haven't customized the startup much)

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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #87 on: August 16, 2010, 06:58:18 PM »
Skuzzy, on a side note, could you put Trinity up as the 'Titanic Tuesday' map tomorrow?

From my experience and reading the other posts it isn't giving as many (if any) problems.
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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #88 on: August 16, 2010, 11:05:53 PM »
I installed OEM Win7 64b bit all MS Updates to date as of 8-13-2010. MS Firewall and Defender disabled. Nod32 as antivirus, disabled during game play.

Last week Friday I was having constant AH executable unrecoverable errors to the desktop while playing in the blue arena with the updated Mindinoa map. Every 15-20 minutes. The errors happened during furballs with a large amount of VOX chatter. Noticing that it was happening during a peak sound event, I changed my sound setup ing the game. I stopped having the executable error to the desktop, or at least I was able to play for an error free hour then moved to the orange arena with no errors.

Original sound setup from the clipobard:

Master Volume
Music-Headset
Environment-Headset
Effects-Headset
Voice- Headset

Speaker Layout - Sterio Headphone
Microphone - Microphone(Creative SB X-Fi)
Speakers - Speakers(Creative SB X-Fi)
Headset -  Speakers(Creative SB X-Fi)

Changed Sound Setup:

Master Volume
Music-Speakers
Environment-Speakers
Effects-speakers
Voice Headset

Speaker Layout - Use Windows Speaker Configuration
Microphone - Microphone(Creative SB X-Fi)
Speakers - Primary Sound Driver
Headset -  Primary Sound Driver

Partial DXdiag:

Machine name: BUSTR-PC
   Operating System: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_gdr.100618-1621)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
       System Model: System Product Name
               BIOS: BIOS Date: 02/23/09 21:14:18 Ver: 08.00.14
          Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     E8500  @ 3.16GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.2GHz
             Memory: 8192MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 8192MB RAM
          Page File: 2207MB used, 14172MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
   User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
 System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
     DxDiag Version: 6.01.7600.16385 64bit Unicode

Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275
       Manufacturer: NVIDIA
          Chip type: GeForce GTX 275
           DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
         Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_05E6&SUBSYS_0E0619F1&REV_A1
     Display Memory: 4077 MB
   Dedicated Memory: 877 MB
      Shared Memory: 3199 MB
       Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
       Monitor Name: LG L227W (Digital)
      Monitor Model: L227W
         Monitor Id: GSM566F
        Native Mode: 1680 x 1050(p) (59.883Hz)
        Output Type: DVI
        Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um
Driver File Version: 8.17.0012.5721 (English)
     Driver Version: 8.17.12.5721
        DDI Version: 10
       Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
  Driver Attributes: Final Retail
   Driver Date/Size: 6/7/2010 16:58:00, 12338280 bytes
        WHQL Logo'd: Yes

 Description: Speakers (Creative SB X-Fi)
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes
            Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0005&SUBSYS_00311102&REV_00
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 100
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
         Driver Version: 6.00.0001.1375 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: Yes
          Date and Size: 5/5/2010 21:30:10, 684376 bytes
            Other Files:
        Driver Provider: Creative
         HW Accel Level: Basic
              Cap Flags: 0xF1F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

---------------------
Sound Capture Devices
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            Description: Microphone (Creative SB X-Fi)
  Default Sound Capture: Yes
  Default Voice Capture: Yes
            Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
         Driver Version: 6.00.0001.1375 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
          Date and Size: 5/5/2010 21:30:10, 684376 bytes
              Cap Flags: 0x1
           Format Flags: 0xFFFFF
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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #89 on: August 17, 2010, 08:08:54 AM »
Making progress...?

Last night I disabled the following services and was able to play the game for several hours without any crash:

-Diagnostic Policy Service
-Distributed Link Tracking Client
-Human Interface Device Access
-IP Helper
-Offline Files
-Peer Networking Grouping
-PnP-X IP Bus Enumerator
-Portable Device Enumerator Service
-Windows Connect Now - Config Registrar
-Windows Network Sharing Service

I can't say for sure that the crashing is gone until I can pull a marathon session next weekend, but it may be a place to start honing in on which service(s) are suspect. I will post here if anything changes.

Simon