P-38 turnfight

[SmokinLoon]

All planes need speed to be in its prime, the P-38 isn't special in this area.

Maybe for someone like yourself that isn't very good in a P-38 and doesn't quite know how to fly one, being under 250mph IAS or below 2,000ft would be handicapped but those that know how to fly the P-38 properly, being low and slow in a Lightning isn't handicapping to us at all.

ack-ack

As always, your present yourself well.    Point being, there are aircraft quite at home down low and slow, the P38 is not one of them and for you to ass-ume that I'm not good or do not know what I am doing in a P38 is rather pompous of you, yes?

I guess I always thought the F6F produced more aces than any other aircraft in the US inventory, and that it was repsonsible for more down Japaese aircraft than any other US aircraft as well.  I guess I'll have to double check the books.

[Soulyss]

I believe AKAK said the 38 produced more USAAF aces, not US aces.  The F6F was the overall high scorer in the Pacific, so you're both right.

[TwinBoom]

Point being, there are aircraft quite at home down low and slow, the P38 is not one of them

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[cactuskooler]

Point being, there are aircraft quite at home down low and slow, the P38 is not one of them...

All these years of feeling quite at home in a low and slow in a 38... Why couldn't you have told me sooner!?

[Guppy35]

All these years of feeling quite at home in a low and slow in a 38... Why couldn't you have told me sooner!?

LOL I knew we were doing something wrong!

[Ack-Ack]

huh  Point being, there are aircraft quite at home down low and slow, the P38 is not one of them and for you to ass-ume that I'm not good or do not know what I am doing in a P38 is rather pompous of you, yes?

The point being if you think what you posted, is it not safe to assume that you're not good or know what you're in the P-38?  It isn't pompous, it's just calling a spade a spade when I see one.

Your comments about the P-38 show a very clear lack of knowledge of the plane in real life and what it can do or can't do in game.  

I guess I always thought the F6F produced more aces than any other aircraft in the US inventory, and that it was repsonsible for more down Japaese aircraft than any other US aircraft as well.  I guess I'll have to double check the books.

If you read my post again, I specified USAAF.

ack-ack

[TwinBoom]

The point being if you think what you posted, is it not safe to assume that you're not good or know what you're in the P-38?  It isn't pompous, it's just calling a spade a spade when I see one.

Your comments about the P-38 show a very clear lack of knowledge of the plane in real life and what it can do or can't do in game.  

If you read my post again, I specified USAAF.

ack-ack

Maybe he is Krustys Brother

[SmokinLoon]

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Your pride and your love of the P38 get the better if you, keep posting the funny pictures though.   

The 38 is outclassed low and slow by a lot of aircraft.  Too many things have to be perfect for the 38 to be able to "get away" and "reverse" the fight.  I love the P38, dont take my devil's advacate approach the wrong way.      

[SmokinLoon]

The point being if you think what you posted, is it not safe to assume that you're not good or know what you're in the P-38?  It isn't pompous, it's just calling a spade a spade when I see one.

Your comments about the P-38 show a very clear lack of knowledge of the plane in real life and what it can do or can't do in game.  

If you read my post again, I specified USAAF.

ack-ack

Yeah, it is being pompous.  Disagree all you want, and that is really all you are doing, but taking the luxary of labeling me is not yours to have.     

I'm well aware of what the P38 did in real life (for me more so vs the Japanese than vs the Germans).  I'll be the first to admit that I can not make the P38 dance like some, but that does not mean I dont know the plane and am unaware of what it can and can not do in AH. You are not the all wise grand poo bah you think you are. 

[W7LPNRICK]

Let's have a vote for P-38 all wise grand Poo-Bah! 

[Soulyss]

I don't think it's a matter of the 38 not being able to compete low and slow, it just has to compete on different terms.  It's a big heavy plane that doesn't roll very well, it's not going to be able to match the more nimble planes in the arena turn for turn.  However because of the counter rotating props and stability it has some impressive low speed handling qualities and can maneuver in the vertical quite well even at lower speeds which an experienced pilot can take advantage of.

[clerick]

I'd consider myself an average 38 pileit, but i LOVE that plane low and slow. I actually have a hard time flying it "smart" because i love those knife fights.

[Old Sport]

I flew 159 combat missions and over 550 combat hours in P-38 models G, H, J, and L. My first kill was a Betty bomber on my 3rd mission while in a P-38H model. The 2nd was an Oscar while I was flying in a J model. I was particularly proud of this one 'cause I was able to stay inside this maneuverable little rascal's left turn for 360 degrees while doing about 90MPH, and at less than 1000' above the water. That P-38J was bucking and shuddering all the way around in what was nothing more nor less than a controlled stall. I was so close to the Oscar that his engine oil covered my windshield. For the last half of the turn I was shooting at a dark blur that finally burst into-flames. When I saw the Oscar explode I pulled up and started calling for someone to lead me home cause I couldn't see through the oil on my windshield. "Pete" Madison was kind enough to oblige. When we got back to base, I had to crank down the side window and wipe a clear spot on the windshield so I could see enough to land the bird.

http://www.kilroywashere.org/003-Pages/Tilley-John/03-Harm-Tilley-story.html

Captain John Alden Tilley

[BaDkaRmA158Th]

P-38 is a great plane, the gunplacing for its armament is second to none, it can laser beam targets if the pilot can aim worth beans, SA is a must of course, while the top and bottom profile is a large target, a p-38 putting itself to your "horizon/flat"" is a very slim target indeed, and most pilots when at 50% fuel or less can make that bird dance in ways that would blow ones mind. Not to mention it has two engines to return home on. Not every p-38 pilot picks from 20k up,but also not every pilot flying low engages targets when 3-4 more are around. Again, good SA.


never forget while this is a game, alot of these "sticks" have more "virtual" flight time then most pilots in any war. and have probably crashed more times then all of the pilots in history. "cant back that last one up  "


 

[mechanic]

P-38s make baby jebus cry