HO or no HO?

[The Fugitive]

When you get guns on your opponent when he cannot get guns on you, the fight is over.  Continuing the fight any further is a pointless measure, especially in the MA, where the speed at which you kill enemies is the single most important metric in staying alive.

we're suppose to stay ALIVE !!!!   damn!

[Reschke]

Spitfire MK VIII for me. 

It does matter when your (my) goal is to be a good pilot (simulated, that is).

Spitfire MK VIII for me. 

It does matter when your (my) goal is to be a good pilot (simulated, that is).

Nope it doesn't matter at all; so wrong answer. Now stop making stupid posts about the alleged or wannabe HO and just play.

[Reschke]

who peed in ur Wheaties?

No one did at all except for all the ding dongs that whine about HO shots and whatever else. I hated hearing about it 15+ years ago and I still hate hearing about it.

[grizz441]

we're suppose to stay ALIVE !!!!   damn!

Whether you like to admit it or not, you are trying to stay alive every sortie you fly.  But it certainly is a lot less mentally taxing to ignore all other threats and focus on the one you are fighting so I don't blame you for wanting to strip it down to that. 

[Krusty]

When you get guns on your opponent when he cannot get guns on you, the fight is over.

This...

I guess some folks just have a compulsion to play with their food Grizz. 

[RTHolmes]

When you get guns on your opponent when he cannot get guns on you, the fight is over.

nicely put

[Yeager]

That was a good looking interception.  I always say AH is at its core a guns game.  That means get your guns on the target and kill them while NOT letting them get their guns on you.  Everything else is weak bs.

[dedalos]

 I will shoot here EVERY single time

Oh, we know   

And juggler will be spraying from 1K out in the 110 while you are fighting someone else, but it all about the good fights 

[dirtdart]

*exception to the rule.... 262s

[dedalos]

Is there... like a website that lists which shots people are giving me that I shouldn't be taking?  

I don;t think that is the issue at all.  I don;t like them and I will make fun of any one that takes them.  Do I take them?  Sure, if you catch me taking off or if you dove in to join a 4 vs 1, if you hoed me several times and failed, but even that does not happen that often.  It is not my first choice or even last choice.  It is the I am pissed off choice  or the I thought you were the guy that vulched me earlier choice   But, I am not about to fly for 10 minutes to find someone to face shoot with only to end up in the tower or limping back.  It is just stupid.

Now, what you do is up to you (you in general not you personally).  The problems start when a HOer gets called out.  For some reason, even though they will explain to you how valid and historical the shot is, they get really messed up if you tell them they did it.  Try in on 200 and see   

As I said, never in the history of human kind has anyone been so upset, as HOer being told he HOed 

[Wmaker]

Whether you like to admit it or not, you are trying to stay alive every sortie you fly.  But it certainly is a lot less mentally taxing to ignore all other threats and focus on the one you are fighting so I don't blame you for wanting to strip it down to that. 

Indeed. But certainly more taxing for the keyboard when you of course need to whine on Ch200 about getting ganged. 

[grizz441]

Oh, we know   

And juggler will be spraying from 1K out in the 110 while you are fighting someone else, but it all about the good fights 

Muhahahaha.  I have no moral reserve with HOing if the other guy can't HO me back.  The only time that it is dweebish is if he avoided the ram in a close quarter fight and I shot the top of his plane after he dodged the ram.  It happens sometimes, especially in the DA, but I usually apologize and call it a cheap shot.

[katanaso]

The only time that it is dweebish is if he avoided the ram in a close quarter fight and I shot the top of his plane after he dodged the ram.

This seems to be the most common thing people do in the MA.  Not speaking about you, Grizz, just in general.

[Guppy35]

Doesn't matter whether it was a HO or not.  Seems to me part of the discussion is context of the fight. 

JUGgler and I had a stretch a while back where we ran into each other numerous times on the deck, he in his Jug and me in my 38G.  Neither of us would have taken that shot knowing who we were fighting as the intent was to out fly the other guy and shoot him in the back.

Same applies to fighting Grizz, despite what he's saying.

That being said, if I'm in a furball with multiple red guys swirling around, I'd take that shot.  1 v 1, I wouldn't.

[Scca]

It does matter when your (my) goal is to be a good pilot (simulated, that is).

I guess it all comes down to one question.  What makes a pilot good (simulated or otherwise)?

• Super high K/D?
• Hundreds of kills per tour?
• Low fighter rank?
• High kills per hour?
• High kills per sortie?
• High hit percentage?
• All/any of the above in a 25 ENY ride?
• Low Attack rank?
• Never HO's (despite the fact that there are 100 different definitions of a HO)
• Well respected as a good dog fighter in the AH community?

Midway and others, play the game like YOU want to play it, ignore what others think (unless you really care what others think), and have fun.  At the end of the day, none of us are making a dime off this game, there is no celebrity outside AH and you won't be on the 11 o'clock news if you do HO someone...