P-40 "white #7"

[Devil 505]

oh just spotted something else  AHHHHHHHH its never ending   

The blue on the spinner?

[lyric1]

A good colour photo for reference purposes.

[MarineUS]

A good colour photo for reference purposes.

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I want that one on the right at the end of the photo! 

[ink]

The blue on the spinner?

nope that's there on purpose, the guy who flew this plane, painted his spinner a few different colors, so I am showing the color underneath the red.

[Devil 505]

Hmm. OK.
It looks wierd to me that way. Maybe if you had OD green underneath. That would look pretty cool.

[oboe]

It's really looking good but I don't think the red/blue spinner works.   I didn't know what you were trying to do until you told us.   I think they probably would've undercoated the red with a neutral-colored primer and not sprayed it directly over the blue, but have no proof of that.

[ink]

It's really looking good but I don't think the red/blue spinner works.   I didn't know what you were trying to do until you told us.   I think they probably would've undercoated the red with a neutral-colored primer and not sprayed it directly over the blue, but have no proof of that.

ya I am not sure 

maybe if it was less blue....Im guessing he painted that a lot more often, I've read in a few different site's that he was known for doing this, that is why he had no numbers on the plane also, trying to confuse the nme into thinking there where many more planes....so with that thinking I would bet they would just paint over the old spinner color with out to much more then just slappin on the new paint...

[Devil 505]

Ink, that's why I recomnended the olive drab showing through the red. It accomplishes the effect you're going for without looking odd. There isnt blue anywhere else on the plane. Sombody who notices the blue would wonder why the blue is there, but with the OD it becomes obvious that  the red paint is wearing off, revealing the paint underneath.

[ink]

Ink, that's why I recomnended the olive drab showing through the red. It accomplishes the effect you're going for without looking odd. There isnt blue anywhere else on the plane. Sombody who notices the blue would wonder why the blue is there, but with the OD it becomes obvious that  the red paint is wearing off, revealing the paint underneath.

good call

[Krusty]

I think the brown on the undersides isn't quite right, still. It's too prominent, and too bright. When you see a car with a fan of mud spraying backwards from the wheel well (like it was flinging mud for a while) it isn't very bright. It gets dull as it dries on. I think maybe a number of things might help, such as reducing the opacity on your current level by half, or changing the hue/saturation of that layer, or something.


Ink, one valuable tip is when you think you are done, don't just get ready to hang up your tools and submit it. Rather, when you think you are done, save it and sit on it. Don't even LOOK at it for a week. Forget about it as much as you can. Then in one week open it up, look at it in-game and in the skins viewer. You get a set of fresh eyes on your progress that way. THEN, do the changes that will pop out at you (i.e. forgetting landing lights or some such), let sit again. When you get to the point you notice nothing missing and nothing overlooked, submit it.

[oboe]

I think the brown on the undersides isn't quite right, still. It's too prominent, and too bright. When you see a car with a fan of mud spraying backwards from the wheel well (like it was flinging mud for a while) it isn't very bright. It gets dull as it dries on. I think maybe a number of things might help, such as reducing the opacity on your current level by half, or changing the hue/saturation of that layer, or something.


Ink, one valuable tip is when you think you are done, don't just get ready to hang up your tools and submit it. Rather, when you think you are done, save it and sit on it. Don't even LOOK at it for a week. Forget about it as much as you can. Then in one week open it up, look at it in-game and in the skins viewer. You get a set of fresh eyes on your progress that way. THEN, do the changes that will pop out at you (i.e. forgetting landing lights or some such), let sit again. When you get to the point you notice nothing missing and nothing overlooked, submit it.

I think this is very good advice.   Often its not until my skin is in the game that I'll see some obvious error in it and I wonder how I could've missed it.
But not having any info from HTC about skin pack release schedule is frustrating and can cause you to rush to submission so you won't miss getting your skin into the next release.   
 

[Krusty]

That's not an issue now with the doubled skin slots.

It is what it is... Getting it into the queue doesn't mean getting it into the next skins pack. It is very much fire-and-forget once you submit. Any mistakes linger in-game for a long time due to the skin pack update schedule. I corrected one of my 109Fs 2 or 3 times and it took forever. If I'd just waited and looked it over I would only have had to do it once.

[SlapShot]

Wow !!! ... the latest version is so much better than previous versions.

Ink ... no doubt you have artistic talent ... I think the thing that you have to remember when skinning a plane is that the "artistic freedom license" has to take a back seat to to the "artistic logic license" when skinning planes.

There is nothing wrong with your weathering/use techniques. As a matter of fact, they are superb IMHO, but you have to ask yourself ...

"Would this weathering/use that I would like to place on this plane ... in a logic place that weathering/use would take place under most normal operating circumstances?"

The latest version of this skin looks like you asked yourself this question ... keep it up.

[ebfd11]

Looks awesome ink and I have to agree with Krusty that the brown underneath for the oil leakage should be toned down a little ... other than that you are getting better sir...

[ink]

thanx all for the replies 

I very much appreciate the advise....and words.


I wish we could use a bigger image for more detail....then I could do a tiny bit of blue and it would not be no where near as noticeable, which is what I wanted, there is actually two different reds in the spinner also to show the different layers painted but going to "indexed" really screws it up, I have heard about "bright" downloaded it but just not woking for me....indexing is the worst 

anybody ever enlarge the image to 2048 and then shrink it back down?   im thinking about doing that. it may allow much more detail to be put in.