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Offline gyrene81

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Re: 109 g6 vs g2
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2011, 02:04:29 PM »
Bunny, i did some sustained turn tests. With fuel for 20 mins, the g2 does a circle on the deck in 18.0 seconds while in the g6 it lasts 18.3. You are right, its faster, climbs and turns better.
Or it is just me, not fammiliar to the g2s handling characteristics and kept stalling out? But Slimmer had the same experience too... 
sounds about right, you have to adjust your flying a bit when you switch to the g2 from the g6. i find it very easy to get too aggressive with the g2 and if i get into a stall fight with it, i end up augering.

what puzzles me is the speed graphs ardy posted, i could have sworn the g6 was faster at 20k than the g2 but it would take some digging to find the info and i'm at work...


huh? the Emil is the 109 E-4 not the 109 G-2
lol, read it again dave, he meant that when he does fly a 109 it's usually the emil, but occasionally he takes the 109g6.
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Re: 109 g6 vs g2
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2011, 02:18:36 PM »
huh? the Emil is the 109 E-4 not the 109 G-2


My AH 109 of choice has always been the Emil.  But if I don't take an Emil I take a G6.  The other night when I was flying with you and Silat I took a G6 for fun.
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Re: 109 g6 vs g2
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2011, 02:21:26 PM »
lol, read it again dave, he meant that when he does fly a 109 it's usually the emil, but occasionally he takes the 109g6.

lol yeah, I get it now... Im too quick to respond lol
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Re: 109 g6 vs g2
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2011, 02:22:09 PM »
and i called you dave...  :rofl  i'm a dork...
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Re: 109 g6 vs g2
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2011, 04:23:01 PM »
and i called you dave...  :rofl  i'm a dork...

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Re: 109 g6 vs g2
« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2011, 06:08:07 PM »
Bunny, i did some sustained turn tests. With fuel for 20 mins, the g2 does a circle on the deck in 18.0 seconds while in the g6 it lasts 18.3. You are right, its faster, climbs and turns better.
Or it is just me, not fammiliar to the g2s handling characteristics and kept stalling out? But Slimmer had the same experience too... 


The G2 is the dancer (well...the Friedrich is really the dancer, the G2 is the stand-in); the G6 is the man's plane.  G6 needs lots more rudder to keep it going properly.  The extra armament is worth it, I've always felt.

G6 is a lot heavier in the nose.  A lot.  Don't know why, though.

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Re: 109 g6 vs g2
« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2011, 06:45:03 PM »
For me its close enough that pilot skill wins the turn contest. Prefare g6 because of views and weapons personally.

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Re: 109 g6 vs g2
« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2011, 10:46:12 PM »
Purely anecdotal but FWIW we had this discussion among the squad a while back and Grizz and SunsFan did a series of duels G6 vs. G2 (both participants flying each plane) and the G6 was the clear winner.
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Re: 109 g6 vs g2
« Reply #23 on: September 29, 2011, 11:52:08 PM »
I prefer the G6 because it suits my stall fighting, E-burning, trick-or-treat flying style. It's a bit like flying a P-51 Delta over the Bravo. Sure the Bravo has some better attributes on paper, but the Delta just suits how I like to fly a pony.
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Re: 109 g6 vs g2
« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2011, 12:02:57 PM »
stability and performance are always opposing each other.  You will almost always lose some of one to gain the other.  G2 is the better all around plane IMHO
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Re: 109 g6 vs g2
« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2011, 01:10:42 PM »
Theres some truth in those, Grumpy. By the way, my flying style is built around the stability, i like to use tailslides, hammerheads, low-speed snaprolls, flying "outta airflow". Theese moves need a quick recover. While i felt comfortable in the g6, i tryed the same moves in the g2 but kept stalling out, had to change my flying style to be more smooth/conservative.
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Re: 109 g6 vs g2
« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2011, 02:06:50 PM »
They are flown differently for sure as they should be.  Successive models while showing improvements overall usually have to sacrifice something from the previous model to achieve it. 
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Re: 109 g6 vs g2
« Reply #27 on: October 02, 2011, 12:48:05 AM »
I've maintained for a long time that the G-6 is a bit more forgiving and easier to handle than the other 109's (minus the E-4).  The F-4 and G-2 are the dancers, no doubt.

The G-14 and K-4 are the specialists, when flown inside their comfort zones they are amazing aircraft.  The 109's obviously have a long learning curve.
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Re: 109 g6 vs g2
« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2011, 04:10:46 PM »
I've flown countless duels in 109s, and I favor the 109G2 over all of the other G models. It offers greater stability at the limits, a smaller turn radius and adequate climb against its brethren. On the deck, it's faster than the G6 and a bit slower than the G14. in MIL power, the G-2 is faster than the G14. In WEP, it's faster above 20k. The G2 has better vision over the nose as it lacks the gun breech bulges that come with the 13mm guns.  Overall, the 109G2 is the best of the G models, excluding guns. I'd take the G2 over the other G models for any 1v1 contest. In the MA, you may want a later model for the extra killing power, but you'll have a lesser fighter.
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Re: 109 g6 vs g2
« Reply #29 on: October 06, 2011, 06:18:07 PM »
I personally prefer the G2 over the G6, you are not talking apples to oranges here between the two, but enough difference to notice.  Kinda like comparing a -1 Corsair vs a 1a, basically close, but definite differences.  The G2 always felt lighter and more agile then the G6, the firepower difference is noticeably better in the G6's favor though.  Guess it's all down to preference and fighting style to which you think is better for you.

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