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Re: 88mm flack gun
« Reply #60 on: December 14, 2011, 01:21:21 AM »
Oh just wait till I figure this gun out. :devil
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Re: 88mm flack gun
« Reply #61 on: December 14, 2011, 01:30:57 AM »
always wanted an 88 on an AF

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Re: 88mm flack gun
« Reply #62 on: December 14, 2011, 03:16:44 AM »
Artillererary!


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Re: 88mm flack gun
« Reply #63 on: December 14, 2011, 03:20:45 AM »
Better yet, get a bunch of artillererary together, and THEN tow it!

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Re: 88mm flack gun
« Reply #64 on: December 14, 2011, 03:34:09 AM »
You don't think that 1 (maybe more) 88's spread around an airfield would give a bomber jock reason to pause and think about his route?

I know I would.

Not in the context of your initial statement:

This sure is going to put a damper on things for the milkrunners that just want to fly around flattening towns.

So far we have just seen a 88 on a field. That's gonna hardly deter town milk runners, as they do fly way too high and the town is often quite a bit away from the field anyway. Under the current system, even 5" with proxy fuses would fail to scare them off.
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Re: 88mm flack gun
« Reply #65 on: December 14, 2011, 04:13:54 AM »
So far we have just seen a 88 on a field. That's gonna hardly deter town milk runners, as they do fly way too high and the town is often quite a bit away from the field anyway. Under the current system, even 5" with proxy fuses would fail to scare them off.

So you've never flown over an airfield on your way to hit a town? I know I have.

As far as them flying too high, surely you know that an 88 can reach quite far. With a trained gunner (assuming this is manned) the results will give many the bomber pilot cause for concern.
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Re: 88mm flack gun
« Reply #66 on: December 14, 2011, 04:23:11 AM »
So you've never flown over an airfield on your way to hit a town? I know I have.

As far as them flying too high, surely you know that an 88 can reach quite far. With a trained gunner (assuming this is manned) the results will give many the bomber pilot cause for concern.

I have too, but if the airfield would become dangerous, I would simply avoid it.

And it's not because the 88 can't technically reach that far. It's because nobody will hit. Even the 5" manned guns on CVs have never ever managed to shoot me down at >20k. A typical town milkrunner altitude is way above that. A formation of bombers, flying perpendicular to the gunner in a distance of 1-2 miles at an unknown altitude (but somewhere around 25k)... that's an almost impossible target even if the gun had proxy fuses. It's just 1-3 very small dots without any indication of actual distance/altitude.

Sorry, but with the information we have now, it's in no way at all discouraging the proverbial 'town milker'. I certainly will be not. There would have to be a lot of additional changes to do so. They may come, but as for now...  :airplane:
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Re: 88mm flack gun
« Reply #67 on: December 14, 2011, 05:39:06 AM »
The German 88. Most feared multi-use weapon of WW2.
Now let's see how close those cv's will get :rock
Between SB's and 88's, I don't think cv jocks will be bringing them close to shore now.


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Re: 88mm flack gun
« Reply #68 on: December 14, 2011, 05:49:26 AM »
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this gun is not better as the gun of a Tiger so i think the cv will not have many trubbel with tham.

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Re: 88mm flack gun
« Reply #69 on: December 14, 2011, 06:42:51 AM »
Finally some flack on the fields!  :cheers:
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Re: 88mm flack gun
« Reply #70 on: December 14, 2011, 07:09:08 AM »
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this gun is not better as the gun of a Tiger so i think the cv will not have many trubbel with tham.

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Re: 88mm flack gun
« Reply #71 on: December 14, 2011, 07:58:24 AM »
The German 88. Most feared multi-use weapon of WW2.
Now let's see how close those cv's will get :rock
Between SB's and 88's, I don't think cv jocks will be bringing them close to shore now.


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Re: 88mm flack gun
« Reply #72 on: December 14, 2011, 12:32:15 PM »
The 88 should die with a single rocket or burst of cannon fire. For those players with a mind to vulch it will become target no 1. Bear in mind it has a slow and predictable rate of fire so you should be able to evade its fire by changing course at the right time.

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Re: 88mm flack gun
« Reply #73 on: December 14, 2011, 12:35:30 PM »
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Re: 88mm flack gun
« Reply #74 on: December 14, 2011, 02:43:07 PM »

No. No it is not gamey.  My Father, in the mid 90's was sationed at NTC as the OPFOR.  He managed to climb a small hill during one of the simulated engagements and ended up with his BMP-2's (Modified M551 Sheridans)  Pretty much Co-Alt with some attack helicopters on their way to the engagement, where his guys promptly opened up on them and knocked them out of the fight.  There's alot more to that story but that's the short version.


This came up a couple of years ago as well, at the time I posted an account from a Soviet veteran that was in command of a Guards tank regiment that was equipped with Lend-Lease Sherman tanks.  The Soviet commander stated that they would park their Shermans on berms to allow them to fire on oncoming low flying German planes.  He never said they hit anything but he did clearly state they did fire their main guns at low flying attackers.  In Rudel's book, he mentions that he didn't like attacking Soviet Sherman units for this very reason in addition to the additional .50 cal guns the Shermans had for defense.

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