Joe Paterno dead at 85

[Spikes]

One act can't outweigh the legacy, not for me anyway.

[dedalos]

One act can't outweigh the legacy, not for me anyway.

That one act is his legacy.    What exactly did he do to better human kind? 

[Shuffler]

Are you 100% sure?

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/10/sports/ncaafootball/aftermath-of-1998-sandusky-investigation-raises-additional-questions.html

Strange piece there. If true it makes me believe that state college may be no place for children and a great place for pedofiles. That is if it is correct..... it is the NY Times after all.

Paterno himself said he did not report the incident to police.

[VonMessa]

Strange piece there. If true it makes me believe that state college may be no place for children and a great place for pedofiles. That is if it is correct..... it is the NY Times after all.

Paterno himself said he did not report the incident to police.

It does appear, however, that someone did.  Why it did not progress from that point, whether from Paterno's involvement or lack thereof, is what creeps me out the most.

The fact that the DA did not "find enough evidence to prosecute" coupled with the fact that he "committed suicide" a few years later is eerie, as well.
He was found dead in his car.  His laptop, however was found in the river, sans hard drive...   

[Vipermann]

That one act is his legacy.    What exactly did he do to better human kind? 

I can say that because of him my life is better. I'm going to leave it at that, except to say that I met him and he was an awesome guy.

[dyna76]

It does appear, however, that someone did.  Why it did not progress from that point, whether from Paterno's involvement or lack thereof, is what creeps me out the most.

The fact that the DA did not "find enough evidence to prosecute" coupled with the fact that he "committed suicide" a few years later is eerie, as well.
He was found dead in his car.  His laptop, however was found in the river, sans hard drive...    

No my friend Ray Gricar was NEVER found......He still missing

[grizz441]

Let Dedalos judge, I'm sure he has lived an absolutely honor filled life where he is in a position to cast stones at the recently passed.   

[dedalos]

Let Dedalos judge, I'm sure he has lived an absolutely honor filled life where he is in a position to cast stones at the recently passed.   

Nop, but people don't go around telling everyone that I am untouchable and a national hero either, nor do I claim to be one.

Now, lets let Grizz judge everyone based on how many wins they have.  According to Grizz, If you have enough wins you can let child abuse and molestation continue and carry no responsibility fro your non actions what so ever. 

Glad to see where you stand on the mater though.  For the record, even though I have not "lived an absolutely honor filled life" I would have never let something like that go.  I have no respect for people (dead or alive) that are abusing or have abused kids and the ones that support them 

[BreakingBad]

Are you 100% sure?

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/10/sports/ncaafootball/aftermath-of-1998-sandusky-investigation-raises-additional-questions.html

That NYT article is about a 1998 investigation, which is completely separate from the 2002 shower incident that Paterno knew about (From the firsthand account of assistant coach McQueary)

By Paterno's own admission, he relayed this information to campus administrators, not to a police officer, which would have generated a police report.

So yes, I feel reasonably sure about that.

[Melvin]

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He is risen.

[321BAR]

Yeah, once he got busted he admitted fault.     So do most criminals.  They plead guilty in hopes for leniency    He kept his mouth shut so he could keep collecting from the school.  Really simple.  If he was anything other than a sports figure, you guys would have been asking for his head  in platter 

hence the reason i said he deserves RIP just a lil more than our drunk driving woman killing senator

[321BAR]

One act can't outweigh the legacy, not for me anyway.

one act cannot outweigh the legacy, but it creates a new one itself to taint said legacy forever

[grizz441]

According to Grizz, If you have enough wins you can let child abuse and molestation continue and carry no responsibility fro your non actions what so ever. 

Haha, I never said anything close to that.  I'm a level headed person Ded, one who can see through the overdramatic and misleading fog that the media creates to sell a juicy story.  The common sheeple cannot do that.  They instead grab pitchforks and storm the castle with the other sheeple. 

[dedalos]

Haha, I never said anything close to that.  I'm a level headed person Ded, one who can see through the overdramatic and misleading fog that the media creates to sell a juicy story.  The common sheeple cannot do that.  They instead grab pitchforks and storm the castle with the other sheeple. 

I'd like to know the opinion of someone who can see through the fog.   In your opinion, did he or did he not do anything wrong?

[grizz441]

I'd like to know the opinion of someone who can see through the fog.   In your opinion, did he or did he not do anything wrong?

Here's how I see it:

He was told in non graphic detail what the grad assistant saw in the shower.  The grad student said that he did not go into detail with respect for the 75(?) year old Joe Paterno.  Joe Paterno has never dealt with anything like this in his 75 year old life and simply does not know what to do.  So he waits a couple days to make the right decision, and then goes to his higher ups and reports the incident to them.  They tell him they will look into it.  Joe does his part and assumes the "wheels are in motion", afterall the legal process is a slow process.  At this point he has done his duty.  Now this is where things get weird.  Just look at some of the posts von Messa posted.  Was campus security contacted by JoePa's higher ups, following protocol?  Was it looked into?  Was a DA murdered over it?  I really have no clue.  

Could JoePa have done more?  I don't know, I suppose he could have shouted it from the largest mountain, but honestly I think he handled it the right way given the extremely delicate nature of the situation.  He went to his superiors who may or may not have done their duty in reporting it to police, it seems they might have.  From Joe's perspective, he did his job and could only assume the "wheels were in motion".  A year later he might have come to realize nothing ever happened of it due to lack of evidence or shady business, but honestly he is just a football coach with absolutely no experience dealing with this stuff.  He did his duty, as did the grad assistant.  

Unless there is more information that I am missing in regards to other incidents that JoePa knew about, in particular, while working with Sandusky, in that he knew he was a child pedophile but did not care, then yes, this is extreme negligence and I would question JoePa's legacy as a moral man, but I have not seen anything that would lead me to believe this.  And this line of thought, is exactly what the sheeple take from this whole thing without actually taking the time to use their pea brains to think about how it actually went down.