A20 Tie Fighter Mystery

[Lusche]

How are its usage numbers now?

I could create a more detailed comparison later, but the A-20 is indeed seeing a lot of usage as the games' #1 airborne GV killer

2011 numbers: (excluding LVT / PT)

A-20 44,553 GV kills
Il-2 31,769
P-51D 25,410
(...)
B-25H 10,199
Bf110G 9,103
Mossie VI 7,467

[GScholz]

So it seems the A-20G already see more use than the Bf110G-2, Me410, Mosquito Mk VI and B-25H combined, at least in the anti-GV role.

[Karnak]

So it seems the A-20G already see more use than the Bf110G-2, Me410, Mosquito Mk VI and B-25H combined, at least in the anti-GV role.

Adding a quad of 20mm cannons to it will reduce the incentive to use those other aircraft even more and thus reduce diversity.

[Lusche]

Here we go:




A2G category includes kills of an deaths by PT and LVT, and also deaths by (ship or field) gunner

[Devil 505]

How good could it be if a Stuka can kill it?


 

[GScholz]

Adding a quad of 20mm cannons to it will reduce the incentive to use those other aircraft even more and thus reduce diversity.

People aren't choosing the A-20G for its guns or performance now, so it must be the large payload and F3 view. Giving it better guns won't change much I think. People choose the Mossie and 110G for their performance in addition to great guns and good payload. I don't see that changing much either.

[Widewing]

How good could it be if a Stuka can kill it?
(Image removed from quote.)

 

Well, even a blind pig finds the corn now and then....

The other evening, I spent the better part of the evening using and A-20 to furball at A39 on the Trinity map. Lost three to fighters (mostly picks by the guys otherwise afraid to get into the fight). I lost two more to a Wirbel and an Osti while furballing near the enemy GV spawn. And, I lost three on the rearm pad to vulchers. I guess because that's the low risk way to get kills when you're a nervous bowl of Jello. One offender, after strafing me on the rearm pad in his Spit14, had the nerve to send me a <salute>!! No salute for you.....  

[gpwurzel]

But Widewing, I'd happily strafe ya on the rearm/runway    Ok, maybe not, much more fun fighting in the air - win or lose (I generally lose, but have fun doing so)

Wurz

[bozon]

One offender, after strafing me on the rearm pad in his Spit14, had the nerve to send me a <salute>!! No salute for you.....  

"I dove on an A20 for the attack. It wad very low and slow, practically 0 speed and alt just going over the rearm pad in its base (hiding in the acks the coward). The A20 pilot even pulled the dirty trick of lowering the gear to slow down even more - must be an ace flying this one I thought. I kicked full rudder and while fighting Spit14s accelerated stall, buzzer whining in my ears, I managed to get a shot in just before over shooting. He reversed me! I pulled up hard nearly hitting the structures next to the rearm pad. I looked back in fear, expecting to see the A20 zooming after me like a UFO, but I must have hit the cockpit because to my relief I saw it explode. Then came the happy text message:
System: you have show down Widewing #1

I gave him a salute for the brilliant trick with lowering the gears, but he did not <S> back the snob. Probably rage quit."

This is his side of the story. Just tell it like it was.

[Widewing]

"I dove on an A20 for the attack. It wad very low and slow, practically 0 speed and alt just going over the rearm pad in its base (hiding in the acks the coward). The A20 pilot even pulled the dirty trick of lowering the gear to slow down even more - must be an ace flying this one I thought. I kicked full rudder and while fighting Spit14s accelerated stall, buzzer whining in my ears, I managed to get a shot in just before over shooting. He reversed me! I pulled up hard nearly hitting the structures next to the rearm pad. I looked back in fear, expecting to see the A20 zooming after me like a UFO, but I must have hit the cockpit because to my relief I saw it explode. Then came the happy text message:
System: you have show down Widewing #1

I gave him a salute for the brilliant trick with lowering the gears, but he did not <S> back the snob. Probably rage quit."

This is his side of the story. Just tell it like it was.

I don't fly as Widewing, haven't for two years... I fly as TredLite. As I saw the Spit angling in to strafe, I firedwalled the throttles and kicked rudder in an attempt to throw off his shot. I barely got off the rearm pad before I got clobbered...

Same guy, a bit later... I rearm, and roll to the runway. As my wheels lift, I see a Dora heading straight at me. I haven't the speed to have any chance to evade, get clobbered again. Later, I was smacked on the rearm pad again by a different guy.

Now, if this was a base capture attempt, I would not complain. That's the price one pays trying to get airborne under those circumstances. What we had here was the typical in-between base furball, that moved back and forth from the edge of one base to the other. Getting picked in a target rich environment is prime hazard of furballing. I can live with that, it goes with the circumstances. However, diving past a dozen red icons to vulch is simply bad form, IMHO.

Note, I have not mentioned the offending player's handle. However, he's a regular on these boards... I won't mention his name either. It would serve no purpose.

[bozon]

Widewing, you need not explain, that was a joke.
I need to install a new humor plugin.

[BaldEagl]

However, diving past a dozen red icons to vulch is simply bad form, IMHO.

I've done that before out of pure frustration although it's been several years.

[GScholz]

As I saw the Spit angling in to strafe, I firedwalled the throttles and kicked rudder in an attempt to throw off his shot. I barely got off the rearm pad before I got clobbered...

You were on tarmac, why didn't you just .ef ?

[Widewing]

You were on tarmac, why didn't you just .ef ?

I had evaded an inept vulcher earlier, and figured I might get lucky and evade that one too... Besides, it never occurred to me to just tower... My stupid....

[GScholz]

Yeah, I always try not to give vulchers a free kill. Wait until they're engaged by ack and then I .ef immediately.