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Offline Noir

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Re: Colorado Gun Demand Jumps 41%
« Reply #480 on: August 21, 2012, 07:14:13 AM »
That would be great, but what about when you go to the bank?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57456714/french-police-capture-gunman-alive-in-toulouse-bank-standoff-freeing-all-hostages-unharmed/

or when you are just minding your own business while at school?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57456714/french-police-capture-gunman-alive-in-toulouse-bank-standoff-freeing-all-hostages-unharmed/


If I go to the bank and get attacked, I give them what they want and live to see another day! Justice is to be given by pros, not the average Joe (see Trayvon Martin).
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Re: Colorado Gun Demand Jumps 41%
« Reply #481 on: August 21, 2012, 07:26:50 AM »
Sure, a 9mm to save the world from the despots  :lol Delusional at best.

Your location and posts say all that is required..
I'll just leave it at that, without getting the thread locked!
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Re: Colorado Gun Demand Jumps 41%
« Reply #482 on: August 21, 2012, 07:27:26 AM »
If I go to the bank and get attacked, I give them what they want and live to see another day! Justice is to be given by pros, not the average Joe (see Trayvon Martin).

Sounds like fun.  

Pro's?




Sorry, Trayvon is not available for questions, right now.  Any others I should ask?
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Re: Colorado Gun Demand Jumps 41%
« Reply #483 on: August 21, 2012, 07:48:17 AM »
Your location and posts say all that is required..

I took the time to learn your language, try to understand your mindset and what is so holy about the 2nd amendment and what justifies so many gunfire dead people. You just classify me as a white flag loving french and feel good about it.

Sounds like fun.  

Pro's?

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Sorry, Trayvon is not available for questions, right now.  Any others I should ask?

was that supposed to be funny?


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Re: Colorado Gun Demand Jumps 41%
« Reply #484 on: August 21, 2012, 09:09:36 AM »
If I go to the bank and get attacked, I give them what they want and live to see another day! Justice is to be given by pros, not the average Joe (see Trayvon Martin).

Yes.. from reports trayvon tried to met out his own type of justice and failed.
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Re: Colorado Gun Demand Jumps 41%
« Reply #485 on: August 21, 2012, 10:07:28 AM »
I took the time to learn your language, try to understand your mindset and what is so holy about the 2nd amendment and what justifies so many gunfire dead people.


The 2nd Amendment doesn't authorize crime. It requires the government to protect the right of citizens to bear arms. Within the context of inalienable rights (aka, natural rights), they are not contingent upon the laws or beliefs of any government, and are to be considered as universal and inalienable. The right to self defense is a natural right. The founders made sure that the Constitution made the government responsible to protect natural rights, including the right of self defense.

To ignore any portion of the Constitution, weakens the rest. There is a way to change the Constitution, and that is by amendment. However, any attempt to eliminate or change the 2nd amendment would not have popular support and an attempt to force it on the American people would lead to violence that would make the current events in Syria seem like a lady's tea social....
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Re: Colorado Gun Demand Jumps 41%
« Reply #486 on: August 21, 2012, 10:53:58 AM »
Oh, that wasn't your belly button I 'poked'? ;)  :neener:
... (Mir, budy, you actually expect a rational discussion over the inter-dweebs?, esp on the AH bbs?)

Ardy, there was a rational discussion at one point in this thread. 

At any rate, that was enjoyable while it lasted.


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Re: Colorado Gun Demand Jumps 41%
« Reply #487 on: August 21, 2012, 11:38:13 AM »
Let's say a gunman starts to threat people in a crowded theater. 10 others pack guns. They all draw weapons. How do people tell which one of the gun swingers is the threat? :) I wouldn't want to be the trooper who steps into that situation from outside! Not to mention if one fires, second one fires back - the third may mistake the defender as the attacker etc. Then the legality issues.. let's say you shoot the attacker back and miss - hit a 10 year old child behind him. Or the bullet penetrates.. It's just a can of worms.

The only way to ensure a safe movie experience in a society which has abundance of guns and large socioeconomical problems is to start metal scanners and patdowns when moving in the theater.
Most people responsible enough to get a CCP are smart enough to look and see who has the gun first then pull it out and aim.
Once the suspect is down, you holster your weapon, check on the injured/wounded and wait for authorities.
We're not saying every crack head in America needs to carry, but that you should limit responsible people from owning weapons.

And if you miss someone in something as small as a theater.....you need to have your CCP taken away.

Sure, it's safer when everyone carries a gun  :huh What kind of twisted logic is that.

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Just ask Switzerland or Kennesaw Georgia.

I lost what? and for your info I have 2 guns in my house.  but i dont feel the need to carry them.  like I said before in the past 10 years that I have lived in this city the only time I have felt threatened was by that police officer. 
semp
Lol you really wanna pick the argument back up?
And yet, all police officers are bad due to one person in ten years slowly placing his hand on his weapon. He apparently had no right to do that.

What about those two cops who got killed recently? Their job isn't dangerous at all is it?  :rolleyes:
Like, ya know, when that thing that makes you move, it has pistons and things, When your thingamajigy is providing power, you do not hear other peoples thingamajig when they are providing power.

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Re: Colorado Gun Demand Jumps 41%
« Reply #488 on: August 21, 2012, 11:58:35 AM »
Ardy, there was a rational discussion at one point in this thread.  
hmm, ganging up on semp, rational? did semp and those who agree with him change their minds? did any of people on the other side change theirs? Did anyone come to the thread with an open mind to begin with?

This, like most other threads, was just another mental masturbation session, nothing more, nothing less, and to pretend it was anything else is self serving. So take it for what it is and not too seriously.
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Re: Colorado Gun Demand Jumps 41%
« Reply #489 on: August 21, 2012, 12:03:17 PM »
Did anyone come to the thread with an open mind to begin with?

I did! :old:
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« Reply #490 on: August 21, 2012, 12:04:52 PM »
Yeah, that's right, you just got your rear handed to you by a fuggly puppet!
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Re: Colorado Gun Demand Jumps 41%
« Reply #491 on: August 21, 2012, 12:15:51 PM »
Most people responsible enough to get a CCP are smart enough to look and see who has the gun first then pull it out and aim.
Once the suspect is down, you holster your weapon, check on the injured/wounded and wait for authorities.
We're not saying every crack head in America needs to carry, but that you should limit responsible people from owning weapons.

And if you miss someone in something as small as a theater.....you need to have your CCP taken away.
Just ask Switzerland or Kennesaw Georgia.
Lol you really wanna pick the argument back up?
And yet, all police officers are bad due to one person in ten years slowly placing his hand on his weapon. He apparently had no right to do that.

What about those two cops who got killed recently? Their job isn't dangerous at all is it?  :rolleyes:

what if it's the cop who pulls the gun out on innocent people?  you think this guy is the only one?

cop pulls gun at bartender
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/05/ritchie-heffron_n_858170.html

off duty officer pulls 2 guns on unarmed man after argument.

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2011/04/new_orleans_police_officer_res_1.html


and marineus stop using the argument about switzerland or kennesaw georgia.   the reason for both of them having low crime rate is the resident's attitude.  kennesaw georgia already had a low crime rate to begin with, the law was only passed to make a political statement about guns.

here, this is a fair statment about kennesaw.

http://rense.com/general9/gunlaw.htm

as for switzerland, you conveniently keep forgetting the statement made by the switzerland native mentioning that it isnt the guns in every house that keeps the crime rate low, but the socioeconomic status of their citizens.  and you already acknowledged that you read what he wrote and yet you keep "forgetting".

hmm, ganging up on semp, rational? did semp and those who agree with him change their minds? did any of people on the other side change theirs? Did anyone come to the thread with an open mind to begin with?

This, like most other threads, was just another mental masturbation session, nothing more, nothing less, and to pretend it was anything else is self serving. So take it for what it is and not too seriously.


they arent ganging up bunnies.  they just think that if they mention it often enough it becomes the truth.

I never said I walk with fear where I live.  all I said at the very beginning is that the only time I have felt threatened was when a police officer looked at me and put his hand on his gun.  it wasnt his hand on his gun that worried me but the look on his face.  i have had police officers point their guns at me before because of misunderstandings or put their hands on their guns when I have gotten pulled over, but none of them had the look that police officer had.

my entire criminal record consists of 1 failure to wear a seat belt, 1 parking ticket, 1 crossing the carpool lanes and a misdemeanor charge of failure to keep my pool clean.  I own guns, 2 of them, but where I live I dont feel the need to walk around with them swinging my hips while "resting" my hand on them.



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Re: Colorado Gun Demand Jumps 41%
« Reply #492 on: August 21, 2012, 01:03:39 PM »
what if it's the cop who pulls the gun out on innocent people?  you think this guy is the only one?

cop pulls gun at bartender
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/05/ritchie-heffron_n_858170.html

off duty officer pulls 2 guns on unarmed man after argument.

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2011/04/new_orleans_police_officer_res_1.html


and marineus stop using the argument about switzerland or kennesaw georgia.   the reason for both of them having low crime rate is the resident's attitude.  kennesaw georgia already had a low crime rate to begin with, the law was only passed to make a political statement about guns.

here, this is a fair statment about kennesaw.

http://rense.com/general9/gunlaw.htm

as for switzerland, you conveniently keep forgetting the statement made by the switzerland native mentioning that it isnt the guns in every house that keeps the crime rate low, but the socioeconomic status of their citizens.  and you already acknowledged that you read what he wrote and yet you keep "forgetting".

they arent ganging up bunnies.  they just think that if they mention it often enough it becomes the truth.

I never said I walk with fear where I live.  all I said at the very beginning is that the only time I have felt threatened was when a police officer looked at me and put his hand on his gun.  it wasnt his hand on his gun that worried me but the look on his face.  i have had police officers point their guns at me before because of misunderstandings or put their hands on their guns when I have gotten pulled over, but none of them had the look that police officer had.

my entire criminal record consists of 1 failure to wear a seat belt, 1 parking ticket, 1 crossing the carpool lanes and a misdemeanor charge of failure to keep my pool clean.  I own guns, 2 of them, but where I live I dont feel the need to walk around with them swinging my hips while "resting" my hand on them.



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Huffington Post is awesome  :noid

You have low crime, yet pool Nazi's live in your neighborhood?   :noid
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Re: Colorado Gun Demand Jumps 41%
« Reply #493 on: August 21, 2012, 02:45:45 PM »
Huffington Post is awesome  :noid

You have low crime, yet pool Nazi's live in your neighborhood?   :noid

oh sorry didnt know the huffington post wasnt up to you standards.  how about the video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgmvtxfsKHs

baltimore sun

http://talk.baltimoresun.com/showthread.php?t=293653

west tampa

http://westtampa.wtsp.com/news/crime/136374-cops-man-reaches-liquor-behind-bar-pulls-pistol-bartender

cbs

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/05/04/off-duty-police-officer-accused-of-pulling-out-gun-at-farmingdale-bar/

it's a conspiracy the officer was framed he must have not been properly trained in the handling of weapons at the academy  :noid :noid.

and pool nazi's live in every neighborhood, just like we have people like you who like to exaggerate things, we do have freedom of speech after all.  dont you agree?

and vonmessa please remind me where exactly I said that we have low crime in my city?  actually point out where I said we have high crime in my community?  actually point out where I mentioned crime rate at all in my community?

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Re: Colorado Gun Demand Jumps 41%
« Reply #494 on: August 21, 2012, 02:55:55 PM »

And yet, all police officers are bad due to one person in ten years slowly placing his hand on his weapon. He apparently had no right to do that.



I never said all cops are bad, i personally know several who are outstanding people.  and how do you know he slowly placed his hand on his weapon? oh wait you werent there.  like I said before it wasnt that he put his hand on his weapon is how he looked at me.   seen that look before on some people who think others are worth less than him.  he wasnt resting his hand there, he was looking for an excuse to pull out his gun.


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