"Am I free to go?"

[Bodhi]

That guy just opened a file on himself....  not to smart.

[Scotch]

That guy is an idiot

[Seanaldinho]

These guys are just trying to do their job. There job is to keep illegal immigrants out. If this is what it takes then I see no problem with it.

[Scotch]

They were actually far more polite than the guards I've experienced while crossing the borders. Let them do their job and you're on your way.

[Plawranc]

9/11

Pearl Harbor

WTC Bombings in the 90's

Columbine Massacre

Lockerby Bombings (Pan-Am Flight)

etc etc.


^^^^^^^^^

These happened because proper protocol, thorough security procedures, and correct threat assessment DID NOT HAPPEN.

the need for tight border security is invasive but necessary.

[coombz]

These guys are just trying to do their job. There job is to keep illegal immigrants out. If this is what it takes then I see no problem with it.

that's a slippery slope...

9/11

Pearl Harbor

WTC Bombings in the 90's

Columbine Massacre

Lockerby Bombings (Pan-Am Flight)

etc etc.


^^^^^^^^^

These happened because proper protocol, thorough security procedures, and correct threat assessment DID NOT HAPPEN.

the need for tight border security is invasive but necessary.

so is it impossible to have effective border security without violating those precious rights that Americans are always banging on about?

you can't have secure borders and good homeland security without illegally searching and detaining your own citizens?  

[JimmyC]

the real question is ...
when do you loose that freedom protecting that freedom?
that's the very fine line to watch

[flight17]

The driver being a dick is why he had a camera going. He brought it on himself.

We have to have checkpoints close to the border to keep out the law breaking illegals flowing over it.

I consider it protection.

Really we are worried about checking for illegals 30miles into the country already? That's a little pointless don't ya think?

It is ridiculous that a truck, car, bus or any vehicle has to be checked within the United States of America having never crossed the boarder...

[Pigslilspaz]

9/11

Pearl Harbor

WTC Bombings in the 90's

Columbine Massacre

Lockerby Bombings (Pan-Am Flight)

etc etc.


^^^^^^^^^

These happened because proper protocol, thorough security procedures, and correct threat assessment DID NOT HAPPEN.

the need for tight border security is invasive but necessary.

So, tell me. How does this apply to Columbine, which was a regular high school? Or Pearl Harbor, which was an act of war? I'm pretty sure "Security Procedures" sure help against that. 

[Scherf]

Are the guys asking the questions genuinely that toothless in terms of the law or were they just saving themselves the hot air?

I mean, if the legal boundaries mean the conversation *has* to go along the lines of "Show me your ID" "I prefer not to"  "Uh, OK" then why have the damn checkpoints in the first place? Seriously, the random breath test guys down here have more grunt.

Don't mean to stir the pot, just askin'.

Edit - This fellow even encounters an agent who *clearly* has a problem with an Australian people. A wiiiiiiiitch!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&v=PzwaZBPREI8&NR=1

[Tupac]

As someone who has gone (and does go through) these checkpoints fairly regularly, they aren't a big deal. Don't be a dick.

[Plawranc]

I am speaking broadly, which I know , is a bad thing because then people nitpick.

I am addressing the subject of underestimating a threat.

In all the cases I mentioned, someone, somewhere, said "its not going to be a problem".


And the answer to coombz is. No.

As long as there is one TINY chink in the armor, it will be exploited. Simple.

[Ack-Ack]

Really we are worried about checking for illegals 30miles into the country already? That's a little pointless don't ya think?

No, it's really not pointless, these checkpoints are set up on known smuggling corridors and we know that smugglers just don't stop when they cross the border.

It is ridiculous that a truck, car, bus or any vehicle has to be checked within the United States of America having never crossed the boarder...

A truck or car doesn't have to cross the border to smuggle illegal aliens or drugs from the border.  In most cases the goods/persons are smuggled across to safe houses or drop off points and then picked up by others and loaded into truck or car and then smuggled to their destinations.

ack-ack

[coombz]

And the answer to coombz is. No.

As long as there is one TINY chink in the armor, it will be exploited. Simple.

I'd argue that there will always be a chink in the armour somewhere, so abusing the rights of the populace isn't actually going to be worth it in the long run. Better to work within the law to achieve your goals than to go around it/above it to try (and still fail) to achieve whatever 'noble' aim is required.

But then, I'm just naturally argumentative

[MarineUS]

The driver is a tool.

"If you tell me you're a U.S. citizen, you're free to go." - he refused to answer. Dude was being a jerk.

The first officer did the right thing - he walked off and got his supervisor. They were respectful. They asked ONE question, the guy avoided it. Would that not look suspicious to you too?

This guy is just an attention hog trying to get famous over YT. Next.