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Re: FREE SPIT 14 and new perk changes to other planes!
« Reply #30 on: June 04, 2013, 03:44:20 AM »
Below 8k the 190s own it.  Above 18k the 190s best take it to the house...since 80% of the actual fights are below 15k, the 190s don't have much to worry about if they have an idea of what their doing.
1: you missed my point
2: come, duel me, you in 190D, me in Spit14, and i promise you, you won win a single one, and not because i might be any better than you - im not, but the Spit14 turns around in 17.5 sseconds while it takes 20.2 in the 190. Also the Spit climbs way way better than the 190 and only 10mph slower.
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Re: FREE SPIT 14 and new perk changes to other planes!
« Reply #31 on: June 04, 2013, 05:05:28 AM »
I fought against a spit14 an hour ago... I stalled him out, he fell arse-backwards... I thought YAY!... but instead, he pulled out of it within maybe 500ft...

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Re: FREE SPIT 14 and new perk changes to other planes!
« Reply #32 on: June 04, 2013, 05:39:56 AM »
middy, we haven't fought after my transformation :D

we need to for chits and giggles
and I like flying the spit 14 below 8k  :t


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Re: FREE SPIT 14 and new perk changes to other planes!
« Reply #33 on: June 04, 2013, 08:49:26 AM »
you must be kidding !

Fw190a5 now have higher ENY than the Fw190a8  :furious







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Re: FREE SPIT 14 and new perk changes to other planes!
« Reply #34 on: June 04, 2013, 09:04:24 AM »
The Spit 14 is the worst turning Spitfire.  That is like saying that the 911 is the worst performing Porche.  The Spit14 will shine if it is flown less like a Spit 8/9/16 and more like a 109K-4, the big thing is that the Spit14 is a ways behind the other Spitfires in every category except in speed and climb.  The Spit14 pilots biggest threat will be the Spit16's, mark my word.  The 2 models are too close in speed and climb, yet the 16 can turn better roll way better, is more forgiving, and is more "typical" to fly (left turning, more stable, better at slow speeds).

Vs the 190's I believe the Spit14 will be just fine.      ;)

btw..., for Looshey: the new perk price for both the -1C and -4 is 26.   :aok

Speed and climb above 15k....that's not where most of the fights are....they may start there but they end up below the 14s performance envelope.  If you try to fly the 14 like the K4 below 8K, you will die more than you live.  The K4 is an overpowered, underweighted stud...that's not the description I'd use for the 14 nor will the 14 accelerate at lower alts like the K4.  Goodlick

The 16 is a trainer and is a threat to every bird in the game so you given no revelation there. 
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Re: FREE SPIT 14 and new perk changes to other planes!
« Reply #35 on: June 04, 2013, 09:07:05 AM »
1: you missed my point
2: come, duel me, you in 190D, me in Spit14, and i promise you, you won win a single one, and not because i might be any better than you - im not, but the Spit14 turns around in 17.5 sseconds while it takes 20.2 in the 190. Also the Spit climbs way way better than the 190 and only 10mph slower.

You fly the 190 and ill fly the Spit....I have no time in either bird sir.  But let's do it below 8K as that was my example
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Re: FREE SPIT 14 and new perk changes to other planes!
« Reply #36 on: June 04, 2013, 09:28:59 AM »
New changes seem about right.  Although I did notice there's now a pretty big gap between the G14 and the K4.  I am certainly no 109 expert, but it would seem to me those two planes should be a bit closer in ENY.  Not a real big deal even if it should be.

The Spit14 I predict will be a passing fad.  Lots of guys fighting them at low alt like a 16 with a different number last night.  It looked so fun I couldn't resist.  Killed another 14 and then promptly spun it into the ground kicking rudder at low alt.  Spit 14 love affair = over.  
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Re: FREE SPIT 14 and new perk changes to other planes!
« Reply #37 on: June 04, 2013, 09:29:27 AM »
You forgot to perk the Spit16 HiTech.  :mad:
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Re: FREE SPIT 14 and new perk changes to other planes!
« Reply #38 on: June 04, 2013, 10:21:21 AM »
You fly the 190 and ill fly the Spit....I have no time in either bird sir.  But let's do it below 8K as that was my example
If youre in a spit then i lose 100/100. But it works vice versa too. Look for me in-game.

Wait, didnt you just said that the 190 owns the spit14? Then wouldnt it be straight if You in a 190 would try to prove your statement against my Spit14? huh?  ;)
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Re: FREE SPIT 14 and new perk changes to other planes!
« Reply #39 on: June 04, 2013, 10:37:16 AM »
The Spit 14 was my favorite perker.  What am I supposed to fly when I want to lose some perks now?  :headscratch: Took it up last night and bagged a Spit 14 a K-4 and P-47M all above 20k.  She is a beast up there!   :devil
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Re: FREE SPIT 14 and new perk changes to other planes!
« Reply #40 on: June 04, 2013, 10:39:08 AM »
you must be kidding !

Fw190a5 now have higher ENY than the Fw190a8  :furious
The Fw190A-8 consistently saw much higher usage than the Fw190A-5. It actually saw much higher usage than one would expect for a flying brick.
Come on save, we both know you kill so much better in the A8 than in the A5  :P

I have no idea why the A8 is so abundant in the arena. To me, it seems to get the short end of the stick in every performance category for a 190 except raw firepower, but it is not like 2*20mm and plenty of ammo is so bad. If I get the urge to wear leather, I jump in the A5 nearly 100% of the times. Perhaps too many players simply don't realize how much more maneuverable the A5 is vs. the A8 and is not really any slower. I'd rank the A8 as the highest ENY of all 190s.
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Re: FREE SPIT 14 and new perk changes to other planes!
« Reply #41 on: June 04, 2013, 11:40:34 AM »
The Spit 14 was my favorite perker.  What am I supposed to fly when I want to lose some perks now?  :headscratch: Took it up last night and bagged a Spit 14 a K-4 and P-47M all above 20k.  She is a beast up there!   :devil

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Re: FREE SPIT 14 and new perk changes to other planes!
« Reply #42 on: June 04, 2013, 11:53:26 AM »
If youre in a spit then i lose 100/100. But it works vice versa too. Look for me in-game.

Wait, didnt you just said that the 190 owns the spit14? Then wouldnt it be straight if You in a 190 would try to prove your statement against my Spit14? huh?  ;)
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Re: FREE SPIT 14 and new perk changes to other planes!
« Reply #43 on: June 04, 2013, 12:31:06 PM »
snicker, snicker  :)

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Re: FREE SPIT 14 and new perk changes to other planes!
« Reply #44 on: June 04, 2013, 01:28:44 PM »
If youre in a spit then i lose 100/100. But it works vice versa too. Look for me in-game.

Wait, didnt you just said that the 190 owns the spit14? Then wouldnt it be straight if You in a 190 would try to prove your statement against my Spit14? huh?  ;)

I was saying the 14 is not a threat at low alts to any of the 190s.  It simply isn't.  It's counter rotating prop and lack of power below 8K make it at least less than the 190s, but not better.  At alts over 15K, the 14 is a beast as long as you don't hold flat turns tight right

Oh....it's stall stability is awful....flat spin city
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