Yak3 horde, manifestation of newest noob ride

[Lusche]

One little statistic not to be overlooked...

Only two fighters (excluding jets) have a positive kill to death ratio over the Yak-3... The Tempest and the 190D-9. Both types are primarily used to pick at furballs... Low risk combat.

At this very moment, it's 12 fighters having a positive K/D over the Yak-3. But the volume of data is still so small for most of them, that there is not much significance to it yet. Numbers will still change rather rapidly, and it's not only yak-3 pilots getting used to the new ride but also their enemies getting used to fighting them.
Will be very interesting to see how it plays out over the course of the next 1-2 tours.


And for the Yak-3 usage: During Saturdays prime time, the Yak-3 had 6.88% of all fighter kills and deaths, being placed second after the P--51D with 8.22%
Yesterday's prime time top 10 fighters in usage were:



Note again the stellar performance of the P-51D compared to rides like the Spit 16...

[bozon]

The yak3 is no threat as a noob plane. No plane is a threat with a noob in it.

However, in the hands of a player who knows his basics it is increadible. Both as a knife fighter and as an energy fighter. It takes a mediocre player and put him at a level of excellent player in mid war planes.

As far as i know, this is the only plane in the set that does not have a stalling speed. At full power the limit on how slow/steep you can fly/climb is the torque, not the stall. A speed of 90 mph can be maintained at full power which corresponds to 3500-4000 fpm climb. I dont thik any other plane can come close to that, but i need to test the spit 8/16, la7 and k4 to be sure. Have not flown any of them in a long while.

[Rich46yo]

Its being seen more, all the Yaks, only cause they are new. Even the 9s were redone and look very good now. Eventually players will drift back to their 38s, Spit-8s, and assorted other 15 to 20perk-somethings that have more firepower then the Yak. Players generally dont like a lot of assists.

If we had the TU-2 I'd happily spend the rest of my AH career flying only planes of the Red Star. At least for a month at a time. I just like the Yaks cause they are pleasurable to fly.

[LCADolby]

I think I am 96 for 16 in the Yak3, it's a bloody good aircraft.

[Vudu15]

To me I find the ki-43 to be way too easy fly. Even the brew is harder to fly (ki-43 out turns it and out rolls it and is faster) A6M3 is nothing compared to the ki-43 as again the 43 is faster, turns better, and rolls better at low speed. So saying you can fly the 43 all the time doesn't say much... No hate just saying. Also look at the bold text. So if I kill you with a tank because I'm camping the runway that means I'm better than you?

Olds I don't think you even understand whats going on in this conversation. My thing is will complaining gain sympathy for the player? No. Will HT pull it from the game? No. Will people stop flying it? Well not until they're ready. So why waste the energy here?

My angle with the 43 was if I can fly out every time and get some kills but be dog piled every stinking time by three plus fighters of the later war years, someone else should be able to adjust their style of play to meet a new and upcoming threat. Treat it as a new challenge obviously he was getting too used to having his own way in a fight and so he runs here to tell the community of the NOOB SCOURGE ruining the cartoon skies of Aces High. Almost as bad as hearing Tosh on range, or someone scream about hacking cheating or anything else. If you find yourself being beaten by a plane get off your butt and go learn how to beat it. Never stop learning. And for God's sake quit whining about silly stuff you can change.

[zack1234]

 

[Widewing]

At this very moment, it's 12 fighters having a positive K/D over the Yak-3. But the volume of data is still so small for most of them, that there is not much significance to it yet. Numbers will still change rather rapidly, and it's not only yak-3 pilots getting used to the new ride but also their enemies getting used to fighting them.
Will be very interesting to see how it plays out over the course of the next 1-2 tours.

Most of the planes with positive kill ratios over the Yak are perk rides or the common rides of picker specialists. Very few Dora drivers will engage a Yak-3. Typically, they'll wait until the Yak is preoccupied and dive in for the pick. The majority of the P-47Ms I've seen do the same. There are exceptions, like LilMac (who will not run from any fight), but they are few and far between. Tempests, 262s, Doras, CHogs, Ta 152s, F4U-4 and so on. These guys won't risk their perks, and obviously realize that a maneuver fight with the Yak-3 is high risk. I have yet to find a P-51 that will engage. They all run. I find it interesting that the Spit16 is taking real beating from the Yak-3. Yak-3s have killed 127 Spit16s for 86 losses. I would have thought that this would be closer to 1/1, not 1.5/1 as it is. The Ki-84 is doing better than the Spit16, with 44 Yak-3 kills to 50 losses to the Yak.

Last evening, there was a big furball near a Knit CV, just off of a Rook field. I headed over, climbing to 15,000 feet. When I arrived, there were two Ta 152s and a Dora hovering about 10k near the CV. They would dive in and pick the guys in the furball, or scorch in and bounce bombers heading to the CV. When I showed up above them, they scattered like rats. I chased one of the 152s, closing from 2k to 1.2k, but couldn't get closer. Even after I turned away, he continued to run to his country-mates, likely in need of an underwear change. I went hunting elsewhere.

[icepac]

LOL......I expected this and lodged my "careful what you wish for" when I saw all the lobbying for the yak3 because I have experienced it at other sims.

It is a good plane and should not be nerfed like many a "new plane" was at warbirds when it was found to perform as well as it did in real life and causing complaints.

We, as players, should take a bit more care in wishing and campaigning for the inclusion of late war beasts just because they are fast, cannon equipped monsters or threads such as this will continue.

Anyone remember the KI44 when first introduced at Warbirds?

It got nerfed after it performed up to par with it's real life counterpart.

We'd be a lot safer not wishing for low production late war cannon monsters like the P63, P61, p51h, and a few others and instead try to get some earlier war planes into the game that played a much larger role in the real war.

[SirNuke]

52 kills 9 death in the Yak3...great plane as expected  

[WWhiskey]

I've been waiting for the 3 for years,, as have many others,, of course it's going to get flown a lot!

[pervert]

A slightly worse spit 16? Its not that good

[Fruda]

Its not that good

Statistics beg to differ on that one.

[pervert]

Statistics beg to differ on that one.

I haven't seen anything in my fights with them to suggest they are anything different to whats already here tbh

[68ZooM]

Statistics beg to differ on that one.

Sorry but certain stats can be mis leading the only stat thats dead on is usage. K\D ratios cant reflect any planes true abilites theres to many variables, like is the pilot timid and only picks then runs at the first sign of danger, or is the pilot just furballing it with other pilots, Does the pilot fly with a group of squaddies and just kills people that are already engaged while his squaddies protect him. Just to many variables to have an honest no bs assesment of any planes K/D ratio.

[Karnak]

Sorry but certain stats can be mis leading the only stat thats dead on is usage. K\D ratios cant reflect any planes true abilites theres to many variables, like is the pilot timid and only picks then runs at the first sign of danger, or is the pilot just furballing it with other pilots, Does the pilot fly with a group of squaddies and just kills people that are already engaged while his squaddies protect him. Just to many variables to have an honest no bs assesment of any planes K/D ratio.

That is only really true of the rarely used rides in which a few players dominate the kills.  Any popular ride sees those things smoothed away be sheer volume of use by many, many individuals.

Essentially the more popular a plane is the more its K/D ratio and other statistics reflect its real capabilities and real impact on the game.