Do 217

[Tank-Ace]

Can we please have a Do 217? Germans pretty much have to make due with the Ju-88 for the span of 1942 to 1945. The Do 217, along with the Ju-188, made up a good portion of the German bomber forces from 1943 onwards.

The Do 217 seems to be the best German bomber we could get at the moment, everything factored in. It has decent special event value, and would be almost perk worthy in the MA, really only suffering from a lack of defensive armament.


Carrying 3000kg (6600lbs) internally or 4000kg (8800lbs) on both internal and external racks, the Do 217M-1 would be armed with 4 7.92mm machine guns in the nose and beam positions, and 2 13mm machine guns in the dorsal and ventral positions.

The Do 217 was capable of around 346mph at 19,000ft, making it the fourth fastest bomber in the game, and possibly the fastest perk free bomber.

[Karnak]

I'd still rather have the Ju188A for that 20mm cannon in the top turret, but a Do217 would be nice to shoot at.

[Tank-Ace]

If you can intercept it  .

I'm curious, does anyone have a speed chart for the Do 217? Just a complete guess, but I'd estimate 275-300mph on the deck, based on its speed at alt.

[Butcher]

If you can intercept it  .

I'm curious, does anyone have a speed chart for the Do 217? Just a complete guess, but I'd estimate 275-300mph on the deck, based on its speed at alt.

No it doesnt go that fast. It does 230 on the deck, some where around 280 at 20k, I think the 275 you estimate is when its empty.

[Lusche]

Actually, a 217M without bombs had a top speed around 325 mph.

With bombs it should not be that difficult to intercept.

[skorpx1]

Tell me, why do we need more German aircraft before we add in more Italian and Russian planes?

[Butcher]

Tell me, why do we need more German aircraft before we add in more Italian and Russian planes?

Do-17 should be added along with Do-217, Although the Do-17 earns its spot before hand because of the battle of britain, however if you look at any of the specs on it, its like adding the Ki-21 - nothing but a target to shoot down, it won't be flown in the MA and for scenarios its nothing more then a target.

[skorpx1]

Do-17 should be added along with Do-217, Although the Do-17 earns its spot before hand because of the battle of britain, however if you look at any of the specs on it, its like adding the Ki-21 - nothing but a target to shoot down, it won't be flown in the MA and for scenarios its nothing more then a target.

If we need it for the BOB scenario's then why don't we have it already? What we really need is Russian bombers, hell, maybe even some French fighters.


Right now we don't need more hangar queens added. We need plane sets filled out.

[Butcher]

If we need it for the BOB scenario's then why don't we have it already? What we really need is Russian bombers, hell, maybe even some French fighters.


Right now we don't need more hangar queens added. We need plane sets filled out.

I want the DO-17 added in game eventually, however if it came down to a vote I would not vote on it, normally I would but the He-111 was just added. Pe-2 and Tu-2 both need to be added (for the russian side that is).

I would go on a limb and say the Japanese need a historical bomber as well.

[Lusche]

Right now we don't need more hangar queens added. We need plane sets filled out.

That's a vote for the Do-217 

[skorpx1]

I want the DO-17 added in game eventually, however if it came down to a vote I would not vote on it, normally I would but the He-111 was just added. Pe-2 and Tu-2 both need to be added (for the russian side that is).

I would go on a limb and say the Japanese need a historical bomber as well.

There is one Japanese historical bomber in game.

However it is a massive hangar queen.

And almost useless.


The DO-217 can be added, much later, but as of now there are more important things needed.

[Lusche]

There is one Japanese historical bomber in game.

However it is a massive hangar queen.

And almost useless

pssst... we have two of them, with one seeing quite it's share of usage.
And the "useless" one has actually become my tactical bomber #1, because it's much less useless one might think, if used properly

[Rino]

If we need it for the BOB scenario's then why don't we have it already? What we really need is Russian bombers, hell, maybe even some French fighters.


Right now we don't need more hangar queens added. We need plane sets filled out.

     Who's this "we" you speak of?  A mouse in your pocket?  Any new aircraft is a good addition, period.
Just because you don't like it does not mean others share your opinion.

[skorpx1]

pssst... we have two of them, with one seeing quite it's share of usage.
And the "useless" one has actually become my tactical bomber #1, because it's much less useless one might think, if used properly

Useless depends on the arena. Late war the G4M is easily killed by any kind of mid-late war plane if you stay away from the 20mm in the back. Even then that 20mm only tends to knock out engines in my experiences.

[Lusche]

Useless depends on the arena. Late war the G4M is easily killed by any kind of mid-late war plane if you stay away from the 20mm in the back. Even then that 20mm only tends to knock out engines in my experiences.

I fly it in LW, and utilizing it's rather unique performance characteristic allows me to survive the vast majority of my sorties in it.
Something that I would much more difficult to do doing the same in several other bombers, notably the B-25C or He 111.