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Offline glzsqd

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Ummm, is the possible?
« on: July 08, 2014, 04:21:57 PM »
I just wanted to know if this goes against any laws of physics. Any comments?
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Offline TonyJoey

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Re: Ummm, is the possible?
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2014, 04:48:31 PM »
 :rofl I don't think one needs any more proof that something is up with the F4U's (quite literally) hover flaps.
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Re: Ummm, is the possible?
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2014, 06:33:53 PM »
I have heard the early corsairs had a tendency to "float" on deck landing approach's and it was a reason for one of its many nicknames. What surprised me was how I was able to throw my nose back into place with the rudder.
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Re: Ummm, is the possible?
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2014, 10:11:29 PM »
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Re: Ummm, is the possible?
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2014, 10:58:19 PM »
Hogs = Easy Mode
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Re: Ummm, is the possible?
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2014, 11:11:27 PM »
As opposed to what?
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Re: Ummm, is the possible?
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2014, 11:11:33 PM »
I've managed to do similar in a A6M3...but it's made of paper mache, pixie dust and ice cream dreams and thus weighs absolutely nothing.  :devil

So yeah....I think that might be a modeling problem....nice flying by the way.   :aok
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Re: Ummm, is the possible?
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2014, 11:48:21 PM »
Quote from: glzsqd on July 08, 2014, 11:11:27 PM
As opposed to what?
Pretty much everything in my book.

-1 being an exception
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Re: Ummm, is the possible?
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2014, 11:51:24 PM »
I'm rarely in any other Hog, -1 just looks to darn mean :devil
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Re: Ummm, is the possible?
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2014, 12:13:48 AM »
When you stalled it and skidded your load factor was .4 - .6g so your stall speed dropped around 30%. This helped get you quickly flying again as you dropped more flaps while your load factor increased to 1g. You may have had some help from ground effect too.
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Re: Ummm, is the possible?
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2014, 12:19:08 AM »
I would have to wonder about the effects of torque on a hog at 100 mph and full throttle.
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Re: Ummm, is the possible?
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2014, 12:32:29 AM »
The Torque might have helped in leveling me out, I'm not sure but I've never had an issues with the engine torque on the f4u-1.
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Re: Ummm, is the possible?
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2014, 12:42:07 AM »
Quote from: TonyJoey on July 09, 2014, 12:19:08 AM
I would have to wonder about the effects of torque on a hog at 100 mph and full throttle.

The torque is modeled so you can see what it does.
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Re: Ummm, is the possible?
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2014, 01:04:11 AM »
Is it modeled accurately is my question. You'd think with the F4U's reputation of very high torque and difficult slow speed handling that you couldn't hover and rotate over 90 degrees about the yaw axis while maintaining wings relatively level.
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Re: Ummm, is the possible?
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2014, 04:28:45 AM »
The F4U has a very good reputation, it was designed to have good slow speed handling. The "Ensign killer" story is a story. Any powerful fighter will give you similar trouble.

The OP's film does not show any hovering. He stalls, slides sideways, and recovers.



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