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Offline Wmaker

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Re: IL2:BoS
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2014, 08:36:44 AM »
Nice BoS short film: http://youtu.be/LdZTEsn4nB8
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Re: IL2:BoS
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2014, 07:37:01 AM »
Nice BoS short film: http://youtu.be/LdZTEsn4nB8

Hell yes!

Awesome video.  This game is a joy even just flying around.  I am glad to see that sims are not dead.
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Re: IL2:BoS
« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2014, 08:46:21 AM »
Team Fusion Mod versions 3.0 to latest loaded yesterday.  EVGA 780 installed two weeks ago.  I have officially dropped the L from CLOD.  No problems with Steam.  EZ set up for X55 Rhino.  COD is awesome on my machine and I am amazed at what I've seen so far.

I wouldn't have tried it without this and other discussions on this board. 

Gobsmacked at the possibilities.

With total respect for Team Fusion's campaign (thank you), nothing will replace Aces High for me in a very important aspect.  It has the most comprehensive sand-box that I've seen in the simulation niche.  In that sandbox a mega scale recreation of the Battle of Britain can be presented and the following month it can be replaced with "Big Week"  or Pearl Harbor (or name your own significant historical event). 

In between, a simmer can conjure a great deal of unstructured fun in an arena alone or with a group.  Plenty of dynamic and/or extemporaneous fun.  It's what differentiates Aces High and should be an emphasis in the next marketing campaign.  The infrastructure here, developed and refined over the years, is second to none.  In large measure, we, the community, are responsible for what happens in it.  I thought about that a lot as I waited for an arena battle to 'make' in that other game.

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Re: IL2:BoS
« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2014, 02:04:07 PM »
I just reinstalled FusionMod today...

Easiest way is to just grab the mega honkin all-inclusive 3.2GB D/L from here: http://teamfusion.theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/

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Re: IL2:BoS
« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2014, 02:06:12 PM »
found this awesome video of Cliffs of Dover https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6u4JxgE2S4
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Re: IL2:BoS
« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2014, 05:55:09 PM »
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Re: IL2:BoS
« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2014, 07:33:35 AM »
found this awesome video of Cliffs of Dover https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6u4JxgE2S4

That's got better production value than some of the tripe that gets released to theatres these days... wonder how long that took....

Spectacular, awesome find.

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Re: IL2:BoS
« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2014, 09:49:07 AM »
So do you just install the entire mod into your Steam folder, the big zip one, or what? Or is there a step by step install? Thanks.

And yes, great video. Gets my Historical goosebumps going.
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Re: IL2:BoS
« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2014, 10:52:04 AM »
So do you just install the entire mod into your Steam folder, the big zip one, or what? Or is there a step by step install? Thanks.

And yes, great video. Gets my Historical goosebumps going.

Pull that whole thing down (the 3.2 gigger)

You'll have all.zip... then just run each included installer in order... it should find your Steam installation right away. 

For example, just double click Mod+Installer+TF+v3.00.zip and run "Mod Installer.exe" right from the zip file.

Then 3.01, 4.0, 4.3, and 4.312.  (Hopefully they will eventually put it on Steam Workshop or something)

I DID separately uncompress 4.0, the big boy... (I used 7zip from 7-zip.org, but WinRar and other RAR capable programs are fine too), then just run the installer included with that RAR.

It's a LOT simpler than it sounds, and it's quite fast as well.

I dunno... some of the guys like Cliffs better than BoS, but man... BoS has me hooked...

Just look at this ridiculosity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pUCZFLvTbA&index=7&list=LLJoj67vFbGpUe7z6bNVxNLg

I redownloaded Aces, but man... the whole neon-billboard thing around every enemy aircraft really knocks a ton of skill off of the whole deal...  granted, BoS Normal mode has that too, but most players fly Expert... funny, that even though they are dealing with far more complex engine management, no icons, etc, (i.e., actual sim pilots) they are a much nicer bunch.  I'd figure they'd be jerks like some of the hot-stick arcade guys here in AH. Maybe it's just a honeymoon period.  We'll see.





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Re: IL2:BoS
« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2014, 10:59:45 AM »
Can I buy it and start flying right away
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Re: IL2:BoS
« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2014, 12:41:10 PM »
Both of them, yessir.

I would recommend getting either from Steam, however, as the update process appears to be more streamlined.

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Re: IL2:BoS
« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2014, 01:28:12 PM »
Tunnel rat,

The "Neon Billboard" is there to make up for the fact that the average display resolution of most PCs represents the visual acuity of Ray Charles.

The moment we can get a direct 1:1 translation of human vision to monitor resolution I'd be all for removing icons. Until then it's an acceptable break for reality.
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Re: IL2:BoS
« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2014, 02:17:54 PM »
Saxman,

Watch some of the linked videos and you see a world that very closely looks like the real world. You also see things we don't have in Aces High to help the player. Several small HUD displays along with a mini map that tracks the con. Reminds me of all the best things from all of the boxed games we flew alone against AI. And we always won eventually against the AI. Aces High has no guarantee you will ever win against anyone. 

Our game is tough on people. Unlike these other offerings, you cannot simply spawn out and be a hero of the sky's. Aces High is hard to digest by it's very nature for most people. It's easier to immerse yourself into eyecandy and congenial predictability. Versus submitting yourself to knowing it may take years to become one of those AHoles you despise in our game who rule the arena with ease. Aces High is an extreme example for achievement by hard earned merit. The other games are selling your ego candy with a sprinkle of a congenial sort of win win competition. Kind of like GoldyLocks and the just right bowl of porridge. But, the mountains and forest the Three Bears ski chalet sits in is gobsmackingly incredible to wander around in.

If you really look into posts like this for the underlying theme. It is one of telling HiTech fudge you while hoping for a smidgen of possible revenge by taking players to the other offering right out of HiTech's living room. They have always existed since I've been in these forums.

It's more a sign of HiTech's classiness as a Host that he allows these posts at all.

It may be time for HiTech to come up with a different Icon since a new game is under development in alpha testing mode.
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Re: IL2:BoS
« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2014, 02:21:28 PM »
Just bought.  Will be downloading this weekend if I can find the button
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Re: IL2:BoS
« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2014, 02:35:14 PM »
Tunnel rat,

The "Neon Billboard" is there to make up for the fact that the average display resolution of most PCs represents the visual acuity of Ray Charles.

The moment we can get a direct 1:1 translation of human vision to monitor resolution I'd be all for removing icons. Until then it's an acceptable break for reality.

That argument only worked until sims started coming out with no icons (A pretty good display of that right here: http://www.twitch.tv/pand_twb/c/4754991)

If Aces turned off icons, the majority of the remaining player base would most likely exit stage right... I am just saying that for me, personally, having to work on situational awareness as well as being able to ID aircraft before engaging, is making coming back to Aces really tough for me.  It's gonna happen (I've been playing Aces on and off since the early 00's)... it's just tough making that jump back into arcade gameplay (and I don't mean that as an insult, I've never played any sim for 18 hours straight like I have Aces)

Bustr - The HUD and stuff is placeholder, BoS isn't quite finished yet.  (Currently, the only "HUD" is a compass, you literally need to be able to read the Stalingrad map to get around) Sorry you are still so comically defensive, these two games aren't even in competition with one another.


To anyone who would ask the question: "Why can't Aces look like BoS (or Warthunder, or whatever)?" I would counter with "Why can't (insert other title) get hundreds of players into the sky at the same time like Aces?"

Apples and oranges man, apples and oranges.


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