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Re: Jug Instructions
« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2015, 04:57:45 PM »
Talk to Ammo if you want a lesson on turnfighting the D-11; we engaged in a 10 minute turn fight one day (vs. my Yak3) and I'm still amazed at what he was doing in that thing.
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Re: Jug Instructions
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2015, 03:45:04 AM »
Talk to Ammo if you want a lesson on turnfighting the D-11; we engaged in a 10 minute turn fight one day (vs. my Yak3) and I'm still amazed at what he was doing in that thing.

Thanks Elvis.  That was a great fight that left me with a huge smile on my face.  Rare we get one like that in the MA without interference.

Having said that, Frenchy, Hub, Lilmak, Player1, and a few others in the 56th are better than me. 

And unlike LePape, they are active and can be helpful.
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Re: Jug Instructions
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2015, 08:01:27 AM »
The D11 is faster than the D25.


D25 has a better powerloading and is supposed to have more armor.

D11 is faster under 10K without WEP, yes.  Makes sense, the razorback has a cleaner airframe

Glzz be tryin to threaten my intelligence. :D.In all honesty I base my assumptions off experience rather than charts as charts only show a 2D perception of realism. Once the 25 gets going, it's better at going than the D11 is. Does that make since? Although I'd much rather fly the D11 over the 25 for the turny ability.

For real though, you don't want this plane to be below 10k with no wep. You are asking to get jumped like racist white dude at a Al Sharpton speech.  

I love this plane to death, I wish the M could turn just a quite bit better at lower speeds. It just can't perform the same types of flying as I can in the 109s. It is the most beautiful warbird IMO.

Once you get low n slow with it you are doomed if other cons are on the way to engage. It is not a plane that fights E planes very well if you don't have the E to combat it. Being slow under 5k is like being in a death trap, especially if you don't know what you are doing.

My favorite is the M model.

I tend to get a little impatient and like to dogfight it at mid alts and see if I can out maneuver better turning planes in furballs. WHICH IS THE WRONG WAY TO FLY IT.

But if I was taking it seriously, I'd climb to 18K on entry to fights. Dive to 15k before I get there so I'm going about 420, and then I am set to engage any target around me. Fight the con's who are coalt. BnZ the low con's. Dive shoot and then extend. Since the P47 can go quite fast in a dive, you don't have to worry so much about spiral diving on top of planes. Although it is still useful to use in your fights. I'd stay high and outside of the furball, make quick passes through it, clean off a couple unsuspecters, and after my 6th kill dive away and make it home in time for lunch.

 
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Re: Jug Instructions
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2015, 09:11:51 AM »
Does that make since?

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I understand what you mean, but I think its important that we don't confuse speed advantages with acceleration advantages. Now the speed advantage the Razor back(D11) holds against the D25 is negligible considering its only a 5-8 mph advantage.

In all honesty, I wish the D25 could be replaced with the D23. I really want a Razorback jug that can do long range escort missions.
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Re: Jug Instructions
« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2015, 09:16:49 AM »
I would argue a D23, if added, would become "the" Jug in the MA, or at least rival the M for usage.
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Re: Jug Instructions
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2015, 09:52:52 AM »
I would argue a D23, if added, would become "the" Jug in the MA, or at least rival the M for usage.

It's alittle ridiculous that we have 4 Bubble canopy Jugs, and only one razorback, and the razorback being the least capable(Payload, Power loading, Range).


Personally, the P47N is my favorite in game. I like the way it handles and I'm pretty comfortable fighting against multiple cons in it. It's certainly the most stable jug at low speeds and I believe its the most under estimated P47 considering most people use it as a 1 way ticket bomb truck.


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Re: Jug Instructions
« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2015, 10:31:38 AM »
It's alittle ridiculous that we have 4 Bubble canopy Jugs, and only one razorback, and the razorback being the least capable(Payload, Power loading, Range).


Personally, the P47N is my favorite in game. I like the way it handles and I'm pretty comfortable fighting against multiple cons in it. It's certainly the most stable jug at low speeds and I believe its the most under estimated P47 considering most people use it as a 1 way ticket bomb truck.




D11 most fun to fight in, any jug is the most fun to fight lol.
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Re: Jug Instructions
« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2015, 10:40:02 AM »
D11 most fun to fight in, any jug is the most fun to fight lol.

I can hop into the Nancy and do fine in it, but when I don't fly the D11 consistently I wing stall it alot and get into some nasty spins.
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« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2015, 10:42:24 AM »
I can hop into the Nancy and do fine in it, but when I don't fly the D11 consistently I wing stall it alot and get into some nasty spins.

Like the P40?
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« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2015, 10:53:07 AM »
Not really. I get into the situations like that with the D11 because I'm pushing it to hard in stall fights, With the p40 I'm more aware of what I can and can't do with it.
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« Reply #25 on: February 11, 2015, 11:12:19 AM »
Not really. I get into the situations like that with the D11 because I'm pushing it to hard in stall fights, With the p40 I'm more aware of what I can and can't do with it.

I can't do much with that p40
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Re: Jug Instructions
« Reply #26 on: February 11, 2015, 11:36:46 AM »
I can't do much with that p40

probably has something to do with the performance monsters you tend fly.
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Re: Jug Instructions
« Reply #27 on: February 11, 2015, 11:39:26 AM »
probably has something to do with the performance monsters you tend fly.

No.

I can fly the p40, just not used to the wing stall it produces.


K4's are leet, I can fly other things that aren't performance monsters. -_-
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Re: Jug Instructions
« Reply #28 on: February 11, 2015, 11:47:55 AM »
P40 is corky, and not a great stall fighter in my experience. The P40C is the lightest and seems to be the most forgiving.
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Re: Jug Instructions
« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2015, 11:53:13 AM »
Anarchy cant fly anything thats not a performance monster. :devil
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