Manned ack should count as a kill?

[DmonSlyr]

Guaranteed that more players have left the game due to boring game play like 88 inchers ruining their hard earned sorties than the amount of people who would leave if you took the 88 out of the game. Anyone want to take bets?

[Vraciu]

Guaranteed that more players have left the game due to boring game play like 88 inchers ruining their hard earned sorties than the amount of people who would leave if you took the 88 out of the game. Anyone want to take bets?

No, because I'd lose the bet! 

[FLS]

No, it's accurate.  Calling my statement "100% accurate" is *redundant* (and admittedly sloppy) because it's either accurate or inaccurate, but hyperbole it is not. ...
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Hyperbole may also be used for instances of such exaggerations for emphasis or effect. ...

The difference between "accurate" and "100% accurate" is hyperbole per your quoted definition. I'm cool with you having a different opinion. 

What part of this wish.is taking anything away from anyone?

That comment was specific to Haggerty's comment on wishes in general.

[Vraciu]

The difference between "accurate" and "100% accurate" is hyperbole per your quoted definition. I'm cool with you having a different opinion. 

That comment was specific to Haggerty's comment on wishes in general.

It's not hyperbole.  It's sloppy, redundant writing.   Like saying "really unique" -- it's either unique or it's not.    This is called pleonasm not hyperbole.

Hyperbole is saying,  "You're the dumbest person on the planet!" -- the point isn't that the person is literally that.

I'm out before I get mod'ed.

[LilMak]

For me 88s are not about getting shot down. I could care less how many times I die. It's about removing a player who would otherwise be contributing to the game and isn't. If a player is sitting in an 88 trying to snipe people from 10k out, they're not likely to hit anything. They're doing nothing except making noise. Not contributing to any engagement. They might as well not be there.

[Ack-Ack]

Ack-Ack. If you want to fly all day in flack guns, be my guest. Decent fights are hard enough to come by without the threat of a magic BB taking me out of it. Flak bursts are not combat and the longer a player can sit in an 88, the less likely they are to actually fight. I can fly around all day offline without having to pay to die from black puffs. I'm tired of tools being added that encourage players to avoid combat.

A person defending a base in a manned gun isn't avoiding combat, they are engaged in combat if they are firing at attacking enemy planes.  Ask Vilkas if he was avoiding combat by being a flak gunner during the war.

[Ack-Ack]

Guaranteed that more players have left the game due to boring game play like 88 inchers ruining their hard earned sorties than the amount of people who would leave if you took the 88 out of the game. Anyone want to take bets?

I'll take that bet.  How about the loser pays the winner a year of AH?  If you agree, I expect to see the data that supports your verified (by HiTech) claims by the end of next week.

[Ack-Ack]

For me 88s are not about getting shot down. I could care less how many times I die. It's about removing a player who would otherwise be contributing to the game and isn't. If a player is sitting in an 88 trying to snipe people from 10k out, they're not likely to hit anything. They're doing nothing except making noise. Not contributing to any engagement. They might as well not be there.

The player is contributing to the game, they are defending their base.  All this wish from the OP amounts to is what HiTech posted earlier.  They want to make base attacks easier for them with little risk.  Now that to me sounds like a player that is really wanting to avoid combat and not the player in the manned gun defending the base.

[waystin2]

I have killed hundreds of ack guns. Simple to do! No one sniping at you and the red guys have no where to hide. 

[Volron]

Guaranteed that more players have left the game due to boring game play like 88 inchers ruining their hard earned sorties than the amount of people who would leave if you took the 88 out of the game. Anyone want to take bets?

I'll take that bet.  How about the loser pays the winner a year of AH?  If you agree, I expect to see the data that supports your verified (by HiTech) claims by the end of next week.

 

[Lazerr]

The player is contributing to the game, they are defending their base.  All this wish from the OP amounts to is what HiTech posted earlier.  They want to make base attacks easier for them with little risk.  Now that to me sounds like a player that is really wanting to avoid combat and not the player in the manned gun defending the base.

Little risk as an attacker?  How so?  The guns can still fire, most of us are requesting a penalty for a downed occupied manned gun.  Maybe we should take away kills on bomber drones too.  M3s with supplies maybe should no longer count as a kill.. just points for score?

The guys asking for these guns to be removed are being a little extreme... but every sortie in anything modeled in this game should count as a death when killed in it.  Its just flat out unfair if it isnt.

Vulching a base has nothing to do with this.. the scoring of a downed occupied manned gun is the discussion.

[Lazerr]

Little risk as an attacker?  How so?  The guns can still fire, most of us are requesting a penalty for a downed occupied manned gun.  Maybe we should take away kills on bomber drones too.  M3s with supplies maybe should no longer count as a kill.. just points for score?

The guys asking for these guns to be removed are being a little extreme... but every sortie in anything modeled in this game should count as a death when killed in it.  Its just flat out unfair if it isnt.  Especially if they are capable of scoring while in that object.

Vulching a base has nothing to do with this.. the scoring of a downed occupied manned gun is the discussion.

[Lazerr]

I have killed hundreds of ack guns. Simple to do! No one sniping at you and the red guys have no where to hide. 

I think everyone understands the guns are destructable.. this discussion is about the scoring characteristics of the manned ack.

Anyone saying these guns should be removed is over the edge.

[Ack-Ack]

I think everyone understands the guns are destructable.. this discussion is about the scoring characteristics of the manned ack.

Anyone saying these guns should be removed is over the edge.

There is no scoring for the person in the manned ack, they don't get scored nor do they receive perks.  However, the player in the plane or GV that destroys the manned ack is rewarded for the kill.

[Lazerr]

There is no scoring for the person in the manned ack, they don't get scored nor do they receive perks.  However, the player in the plane or GV that destroys the manned ack is rewarded for the kill.

I guess if a player in a manned gun has an opportunity to get a kill on me.. i would like to be able to get one on them.  And im not saying a gun destroyed message.