ENY (one more time)

[Ciaphas]

In theory, a two sided "war" would eliminate, for the most part, the need for ENY.


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[Vraciu]

In theory, a two sided "war" would eliminate, for the most part, the need for ENY.


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It would IF people switch for balance.   That is usually not a problem.   Some around here seem to think everyone will join one side and roll bases against token resistance.   If that happened then ENY might help. 

Frankly, I think players will switch just like we did in WBs to keep a balance. 

[Arlo]

- People will switch for balance and ENY will actually work as intended with two sides. 

This hypothesis appears to lack foundation. Why do you think players who work so hard to invent reasons not to switch in the three-sided MA will suddenly see their reasons evaporate when playing a two sided game? I've seen events (that were meticulously designed to be even) become woefully one sided simply because players decided to make it so.

[Vraciu]

This hypothesis appears to lack foundation. Why do you think players who work so hard to invent reasons not to switch in the three-sided MA will suddenly see their reasons evaporate when playing a two sided game? I've seen events (that were meticulously designed to be even) become woefully one sided simply because players decided to make it so.

The things that make ENY and the side switch timer a cluster are mitigated with two sides—so long as the switch time is reasonable, i.e. NOT six hours. 

From this end user’s stand point three sides, long switch times, and ENY are not helping things as they exist currently.

I flew in WBs for YEARS with two sides.  All this the-sky-will-fall panic about uneven sides and the like never happened.   

[Arlo]

The things that make ENY and the side switch timer a cluster are mitigated with two sides—so long as the switch time is reasonable, i.e. NOT six hours. 

From this end user’s stand point three sides, long switch times, and ENY are not helping things as they exist currently.

I flew in WBs for YEARS with two sides.  All this the-sky-will-fall panic about uneven sides and the like never happened.

Your years of valuable WB experience is noted (as is HT's).

[Vraciu]

Your years of valuable WB experience is noted (as is HT's).

I was there more recently than he was.   And I’m an end user, not a developer.  The perspectives are different. 

[Oldman731]

Frankly, I think players will switch just like we did in WBs to keep a balance.

What was that weekly thing they had a few years ago, where people would gang up and horde the map?  There was a name for it.  I believe it was one of the reasons for implementing ENY.

- oldman

[Arlo]

I was there more recently than he was.   And I’m an end user, not a developer.  The perspectives are different.

HT has always played the games he develops. He developed AH as a result of experiences in both AW and WB. Perspective.

[Vraciu]

HT has always played the games he develops. He developed AH as a result of experiences in both AW and WB. Perspective.

He doesn’t play it anywhere near what we do.   

Programming is an intensive endeavor.   I’ve seen him at work.   Busy busy busy. 

[Vraciu]

What was that weekly thing they had a few years ago, where people would gang up and horde the map?  There was a name for it.  I believe it was one of the reasons for implementing ENY.

- oldman

I missed that one.   But if they wanna horde bad enough let them.  They can do it in Storches and Goons. 

[Arlo]

He doesn’t play it anywhere near what we do.   

Programming is an intensive endeavor.   I’ve seen him at work.   Busy busy busy.

Not observing leverage for you seeing things more clearly than HT at this moment.

[Vraciu]

Not observing leverage for you seeing things more clearly than HT at this moment.

Don’t really care either way on that issue.

Common sense is on my side here.

[Arlo]

Don’t really care either way. 

Common sense is on my side here.

I'm sure it is.

[Vraciu]

I'm sure it is.

Well at least you finally came around.   

[Arlo]

Well at least you finally came around.   

My statements stand.