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Re: Boeing 737 Max
« Reply #45 on: July 02, 2020, 09:39:15 AM »
Typical.

There's always somebody that thinks just one more gauge can take the place of a competent, well-trained pilot.

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Re: Boeing 737 Max
« Reply #46 on: July 02, 2020, 09:43:24 AM »
The core truth.



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« Reply #47 on: July 02, 2020, 11:49:02 AM »
Typical.

There's always somebody that thinks just one more gauge can take the place of a competent, well-trained pilot.

well that one more gauge was just made standard.


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« Reply #48 on: July 02, 2020, 11:57:43 AM »
well that one more gauge was just made standard.


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To accommodate the lowest common denominator.



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Re: Boeing 737 Max
« Reply #49 on: July 02, 2020, 12:17:33 PM »
To accommodate the lowest common denominator.

Until the next one goes for the record.....
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« Reply #50 on: July 02, 2020, 03:06:20 PM »
To accommodate the lowest common denominator.

isn't that true for everything new in a plane?


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Re: Boeing 737 Max
« Reply #51 on: July 02, 2020, 03:24:15 PM »
isn't that true for everything new in a plane?


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Not necessarily.



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Re: Boeing 737 Max
« Reply #52 on: July 02, 2020, 03:38:15 PM »
isn't that true for everything new in a plane?


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Re: Boeing 737 Max
« Reply #53 on: July 02, 2020, 06:49:48 PM »
well that one more gauge was just made standard.
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Yes, it was. And more than likely yet another poorly trained crew will eventually crash a 737MAX. Add all the gauges you can possibly imagine; that still won't provide protection for a poorly trained, incompetent crew.

BTW... on that comment you made about not being there. Have you EVER been there? Do you hold a PIC Type Rating in ANY aircraft?
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« Reply #54 on: July 02, 2020, 07:09:21 PM »
Yes, it was. And more than likely yet another poorly trained crew will eventually crash a 737MAX. Add all the gauges you can possibly imagine; that still won't provide protection for a poorly trained, incompetent crew.

BTW... on that comment you made about not being there. Have you EVER been there? Do you hold a PIC Type Rating in ANY aircraft?

nope,  but i did stay at a holiday Inn once.  however i have driven for 38 years and have never cause an accident and only 1 ticket for crossing the double yellow lines.

that makes me an expert lol. i remember reading about a cop driving a car with the accelerator stuck.  i bet that cop had more training than i did in driving a car and yet he crashed the car and killed himself and 3 other people.  easy for me to say i would have put the car in neutral.  which is what i had done before. but i don't know what was going thru his mind and why not do the safest thing.

that's what you guys with superb training do.  you can sit and blame the pilots totally when there's 2 other that i believe equally guilty.

that's what i think anyway.

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« Reply #55 on: July 02, 2020, 07:26:10 PM »
Pretty much what I figured.

You and those Lion Air/Ethiopian guys at the Holiday Inn.
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« Reply #56 on: July 02, 2020, 07:48:17 PM »
Pretty much what I figured.

You and those Lion Air/Ethiopian guys at the Holiday Inn.

get off your high horse.  from my point of view a 1200 gadget could have prevented, in addition to pilots being told no simulating training needed and to qualify and ipad was sufficient.

pilots were so under trained that they had thousands of hours with no accidents. but of course they were lucky.


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« Reply #57 on: July 02, 2020, 08:38:05 PM »
Competent, well trained pilots, thatís what could have saved both airplanes.


Undoubtedly true.  But Langewiesche's son wrote an article, maybe a year ago, that vividly pointed out that most of the rest of the world does not now, and perhaps never will, have competent, well-trained pilots.  According to him, Airbus figured this out first, and started designing planes that could be flown by...well...by people like me, while Boeing built good planes for good pilots. 

Could be that useless pilots are going to be a fact of life for much of the world, and airliners have to be designed to deal with that.

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« Reply #58 on: July 02, 2020, 10:04:10 PM »

Undoubtedly true.  But Langewiesche's son wrote an article, maybe a year ago, that vividly pointed out that most of the rest of the world does not now, and perhaps never will, have competent, well-trained pilots.  According to him, Airbus figured this out first, and started designing planes that could be flown by...well...by people like me, while Boeing built good planes for good pilots. 

Could be that useless pilots are going to be a fact of life for much of the world, and airliners have to be designed to deal with that.

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Re: Boeing 737 Max
« Reply #59 on: July 03, 2020, 02:48:49 AM »
Yup
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