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Re: Dear Amerika
« Reply #300 on: August 17, 2020, 06:35:49 AM »
NY is an exmple of how no one knew what to do in the beginning and with time they finally waded through it...the worst of it anyway.

The same fate that awaits the rest of the country.

The lock down was supposed to be for two weeks when we were told 20 to 30 million would die if we didn't.

5 months later they are still guessing and changing their minds daily..

Seems everyone will be exposed to it before some vaccine pops up.

Even then estimates put it at 30% that will not be 1st in line to get it.

Seems best defense is to be as healthy as possible so WHEN you get it so like the other 98% that have gotten it, it will not kill you.

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Re: Dear Amerika
« Reply #301 on: August 17, 2020, 07:34:45 AM »
NY is an exmple of how no one knew what to do in the beginning and with time they finally waded through it...the worst of it anyway.

The same fate that awaits the rest of the country.

No...we knew what to do in May as evident by the dramatic difference in NY. The rest of the country is too worried about "muh freedumz" to do what they need to do to curb daily new cases.
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Re: Dear Amerika
« Reply #302 on: August 17, 2020, 07:37:34 AM »
I heard the Sturgis Rally was the bestest ever this year until a half dozen BLMs scared them angry. There'll be no tracking of the Covid outbreaks that'll happen because of it.

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Re: Dear Amerika
« Reply #303 on: August 17, 2020, 08:00:39 AM »
I'm happy the death #s aren't even close to what was predicted in the beginning. I am just pointing out the absurdity is Trips comments about Fox News watchers given where most of the high covid rates are. Remember, its okay for large groups to spray paint statements in the street and increase crime by 20%+ but its not okay to shoot the 911 lazer light memorial because Covid might spread....

I too am glad the deaths were not what was estimated.

I don't like to get too political here but it seems we are already off the deep end. I don't think it is any secret that Fox has laughably mishandled much of their info through all of this, but media is media.

For the protests/riots and stuff I think it is a sticky situation. As it is in the Constitution to allow (peaceful) protest I think the gov't hands are tied personally, plus no police force can dissipate thousands of people. With regard to the riots, I imagine any police force would have trouble dealing with those as well. Lets face it, regular police probably don't receive riot training and riot police are much less numerical than patrolmen. It would be a double edged sword for police - look at what happened in I think Nashville? where the NG was patrolling the streets during the 'stay at home' order...it looked like post-apocalyptic America you see in Jericho or something.

I am a bit upset about the 9/11 memorial as it means a lot to me. I don't think it was due to the display drawing crowds, though. I read that it takes 40-50 people to set up the display. While I feel like it could be done, it was likely deemed 'unnecessary' I suppose, and I have to respect that.
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Re: Dear Amerika
« Reply #304 on: August 17, 2020, 09:26:16 AM »
I too am glad the deaths were not what was estimated.

I don't like to get too political here but it seems we are already off the deep end. I don't think it is any secret that Fox has laughably mishandled much of their info through all of this, but media is media.

For the protests/riots and stuff I think it is a sticky situation. As it is in the Constitution to allow (peaceful) protest I think the gov't hands are tied personally, plus no police force can dissipate thousands of people. With regard to the riots, I imagine any police force would have trouble dealing with those as well. Lets face it, regular police probably don't receive riot training and riot police are much less numerical than patrolmen. It would be a double edged sword for police - look at what happened in I think Nashville? where the NG was patrolling the streets during the 'stay at home' order...it looked like post-apocalyptic America you see in Jericho or something.

I am a bit upset about the 9/11 memorial as it means a lot to me. I don't think it was due to the display drawing crowds, though. I read that it takes 40-50 people to set up the display. While I feel like it could be done, it was likely deemed 'unnecessary' I suppose, and I have to respect that.

I follow many more sources than Fox News. And yes they are halfway right wing, infact are actually the most balanced MSM. The problem is that for some reason people only believe MSM on their side and then disregard any other media be it MSM or alternative media that goes against theres, because they dont know the source like they do their MSM. We cannot have logical debates anymore because really good researchers who are not MSM get instantly written off and apparently the only media that is true in the world is the MSM on the other side of Fox. Ironically, those other MSM sites have way less ratings, but have a group of them that all work incahoots to make a story seem way bigger than it should be. Now we have 10 media sources all trying to take down one media source that doesn't push their narrative.
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Re: Dear Amerika
« Reply #305 on: August 17, 2020, 11:25:17 AM »

We haven't had a single case of community transmission for over 100 days. ie, zero nil nada zip cases of covid-19 internally.


Hmmm! You seem to have spoken to soon. Now New Zealand is reporting new cases, has postponed elections......

Hey I live in NYC. My industry, Broadway, is totally shut down. I have no job. Yet I am alive and healthy. Living in the original USA pandemic central. Now it has spread to republican controled states, children, no end in site. I thank my Governor, Cuomo, for not diddlying around. He made mistakes but who wouldn't in the beginings of such a thing. I blame our president and the GOP for making sure they killed as many citizens as they could. For placing dollars above life. They certainly did not cause the pandemic, but they certainly made sure it did not go away, and that it continues! What part of depraved indifference to human life, is unclear. Considered a murder 2 felony in some states!

I only wish our citizens would wake the diddly up and stop listening to the amatuers, the uninformed, to those that use covid to further thier agendas. This is no joke, not fake news, if it mutates covid could go into a bubonic plague mode and kill, kill, kill. This what happens when you do not properly educate your citizens, and breed stupid people.
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Re: Dear Amerika
« Reply #306 on: August 17, 2020, 11:49:53 AM »
Given no one knows when this actually started or what the numbers actually are, it seems that the lower numbers now being reported in the previous hot spots maybe nothing more than a herd immunity setting in.

Seems everyone was caught with their pants down - like gov usually is - and spent more time pointing fingers than anything else.

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Re: Dear Amerika
« Reply #307 on: August 17, 2020, 02:47:27 PM »
scientists don't know crap!!! (said while using a computer designed by scientists)
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Re: Dear Amerika
« Reply #308 on: August 17, 2020, 02:49:21 PM »
scientists don't know crap!!! (said while using a computer designed by scientists)
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well maybe not designed by scientists but surely designed with their theories in mind.


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Re: Dear Amerika
« Reply #309 on: August 17, 2020, 02:49:59 PM »
What might CS Lewis say of our new COVID situation? ... Here’s what he said in 1948 about the mental shift required by living with the threat of the atomic bomb:

In one way we think a great deal too much of the atomic bomb. “How are we to live in an atomic age?” I am tempted to reply: “Why, as you would have lived in the sixteenth century when the plague visited London almost every year, or as you would have lived in a Viking age when raiders from Scandinavia might land and cut your throat any night; or indeed, as you are already living in an age of cancer, an age of syphilis, an age of paralysis, an age of air raids, an age of railway accidents, an age of motor accidents.”

In other words, do not let us begin by exaggerating the novelty of our situation. Believe me, dear sir or madam, you and all whom you love were already sentenced to death before the atomic bomb was invented: and quite a high percentage of us were going to die in unpleasant ways. We had, indeed, one very great advantage over our ancestors—anesthetics; but we have that still. It is perfectly ridiculous to go about whimpering and drawing long faces because the scientists have added one more chance of painful and premature death to a world which already bristled with such chances and in which death itself was not a chance at all, but a certainty.

This is the first point to be made: and the first action to be taken is to pull ourselves together. If we are all going to be destroyed by an atomic bomb, let that bomb when it comes find us doing sensible and human things—praying, working, teaching, reading, listening to music, bathing the children, playing tennis, chatting to our friends over a pint and a game of darts—not huddled together like frightened sheep and thinking about bombs. They may break our bodies (a microbe can do that) but they need not dominate our minds.

— “On Living in an Atomic Age” (1948) in Present Concerns: Journalistic Essays
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Re: Dear Amerika
« Reply #310 on: August 17, 2020, 02:56:45 PM »
What might CS Lewis say of our new COVID situation? ... Here’s what he said in 1948 about the mental shift required by living with the threat of the atomic bomb:

In one way we think a great deal too much of the atomic bomb. “How are we to live in an atomic age?” I am tempted to reply: “Why, as you would have lived in the sixteenth century when the plague visited London almost every year, or as you would have lived in a Viking age when raiders from Scandinavia might land and cut your throat any night; or indeed, as you are already living in an age of cancer, an age of syphilis, an age of paralysis, an age of air raids, an age of railway accidents, an age of motor accidents.”

In other words, do not let us begin by exaggerating the novelty of our situation. Believe me, dear sir or madam, you and all whom you love were already sentenced to death before the atomic bomb was invented: and quite a high percentage of us were going to die in unpleasant ways. We had, indeed, one very great advantage over our ancestors—anesthetics; but we have that still. It is perfectly ridiculous to go about whimpering and drawing long faces because the scientists have added one more chance of painful and premature death to a world which already bristled with such chances and in which death itself was not a chance at all, but a certainty.

This is the first point to be made: and the first action to be taken is to pull ourselves together. If we are all going to be destroyed by an atomic bomb, let that bomb when it comes find us doing sensible and human things—praying, working, teaching, reading, listening to music, bathing the children, playing tennis, chatting to our friends over a pint and a game of darts—not huddled together like frightened sheep and thinking about bombs. They may break our bodies (a microbe can do that) but they need not dominate our minds.

— “On Living in an Atomic Age” (1948) in Present Concerns: Journalistic Essays
This right here sums it up for me. It's that old saying You started dying the second you were born.
Just think about all the million ways people die. Has anybody else seen that picture of that poor basitige that got crushed by a rock during the eruption of Vesuvius. Wow as if dying in a volcanic eruption wasn't bad enough he takes a 2 ton rock to the face that buries his head 3 feet into the ground.
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Re: Dear Amerika
« Reply #311 on: August 17, 2020, 06:02:26 PM »
I'm happy the death #s aren't even close to what was predicted in the beginning. I am just pointing out the absurdity is Trips comments about Fox News watchers given where most of the high covid rates are. Remember, its okay for large groups to spray paint statements in the street and increase crime by 20%+ but its not okay to shoot the 911 lazer light memorial because Covid might spread....

you are right,  you predicted what 30 or 300? can't remember exactly.  number of dead sure keep going up.

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Re: Dear Amerika
« Reply #312 on: August 17, 2020, 06:57:08 PM »
So um, nobody was excited to hear the FDA approved a $1 10 minute saliva test?

2 weeks this thing is over!

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Re: Dear Amerika
« Reply #313 on: August 17, 2020, 07:23:15 PM »
you are right,  you predicted what 30 or 300? can't remember exactly.  number of dead sure keep going up.

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Yeah, it was 100 dead by the end of march after the first case in Bill Gates back yard. Given that China is much dirtier and has a much more dense population, i didnt think it would be so bad. Why didn't they close their borders and protect thre world? Why wasn't Bill Gates able to stop the spread from a nursing home after his event 201? Strange that it showed up first in a nursing home of all places... was it Evergreen nursing home? Hmmm. My estimates where still closer than the media though.
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Re: Dear Amerika
« Reply #314 on: August 17, 2020, 07:48:13 PM »
So um, nobody was excited to hear the FDA approved a $1 10 minute saliva test?

2 weeks this thing is over!

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yeah but if the market tanks some more, the really rich guys can buy up more cheap stock and wait for everything to get back to normal. I can't even imagine.