Lets call it strange observation

[CptTrips]

We commonly have running bets on comms if we can ID who a player is or where they'll pop out at and we're more often than not spot-on, because it's super easy to allow the above to become second nature and part of SA once you get the hang of it.

I will verify I've overheard in some of your videos, you discussing who a bandit likely is based on plane type and flying style.

No, those weren't fake conversations.  I'd be able to tell.  They were obviously organic.  Nobody here is that good of an actor.

[Oldman731]

• This was also achievable prior to the system kill messages update by simply having a computer or phone pulled up with the player's stats. Refreshing the page would let you know who they killed and what plane they were in.

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Am I saying we target players?

...er...well...sure seems like that's what you're doing, if you go through all this effort.

- oldman

[Skyyr]

...er...well...sure seems like that's what you're doing, if you go through all this effort.

- oldman

For example, one time, a player had a 80:1 k/d. Clearly they were avoiding combat while trying to pick other players, so it was handy to know what they were in and where they were; both so they could be ID'd and so that any effort would be focused on them and not the other targets in the area.

[Animl-AW]

...er...well...sure seems like that's what you're doing, if you go through all this effort.

- oldman

This is a guy who should never rob a bank, he tells everyone how he did it.[/list]

[Skyyr]

This is a guy who should never rob a bank, he tells everyone how he did it.

Imagine playing a game for 2 decades and not knowing how it works.

[CptTrips]

...er...well...sure seems like that's what you're doing, if you go through all this effort.

- oldman

Are you saying that is a HTC Term of Service violation?  Can you specify the rule?

Players have been targeted since AW.  You've never seen anyone ask, "HEy, where were you at when so-in-so killed you?"  Then you go there and try and find the guy if you were looking to get even.

Would that be ban-able now?


Also, is anyone here going to dare claim that no one tries to hunt Skyyr?

Sure looks like it to me in some of the vids. As soon as he gets a kill in the vid and his name is in lights, he can look back view and there will be a string of 6 reds chasing him.
Coincidence?  Maybe.

[DmonSlyr]

Assuming he is not signing into multiple accounts simultaneously in different countries to track an enemy players position ( a clear rule violation), what in all you listed is an actual actionable HTC rule violation?

Can he not check the stats page?
Can he not look at the roster?
Can he not ask a countryman who just showed having gotten killed by you on PM or country channel where he was when You killed his countryman?
Can he not decide to fly there?
Can he not engage any enemy planes there he chooses?

Bragging isn't a violation.  If he was calling you obscene names on 200 it would be.

Exactly what is it you want enforced against Skyyr, and how would it be workable?

If they are on my team first in the same area, we are both in the in air, and then he lands, switch to the team we were just fighting while I'm still in the middle of a sortie, only to attack me with the advantage. And instances like this happen over and over again. What is the actual difference if they are using multiple accounts? He can see any side at any time 3 accounts anyway. Gaming all 3 sides at any moment.

It's garbage on HTC side.
It's garbage with players gaming a system for targeting.
It's garbage. That's all it is.

[CptTrips]

It's garbage on HTC side.
It's garbage with players gaming a system for targeting.
It's garbage. That's all it is.

You are only speaking from subjective emotion.

Worse for blaming HT.  There is no rational solution for that.

You are asking HT to become a psychic and guess the intent in Skyyr's mind.  You are essentially expecting HT to enforce a thought-crime.

How does someone make sure they are not going to get banned if there is no set of written criteria for them to avoid and some completely innocent act can be interpreted by a wannabe psychic?

Maybe it just sorta worked out that way by accident.  Prove it wasn't just accident.

Honest question.....  If Skyyr's  KD against you was 1:1 or worse, would we be having this discussion?


[Edit]  Oh.  If your solution is banning multiple household accounts or enforcing a rule they all have to stay in the same country and all are subject to the same switch cooldown timer, then, I wouldn't argue with that, though it might be equally unpopular to others.

[Busher]

Hey Dale;

Still think it was a good idea to let this guy back in? 

[Animl-AW]

If they are on my team first in the same area, we are both in the in air, and then he lands, switch to the team we were just fighting while I'm still in the middle of a sortie, only to attack me with the advantage. And instances like this happen over and over again. What is the actual difference if they are using multiple accounts? He can see any side at any time 3 accounts anyway. Gaming all 3 sides at any moment.

It's garbage on HTC side.
It's garbage with players gaming a system for targeting.
It's garbage. That's all it is.

Sure he will
Yes it is

This is why dweeb hunts were invented in AW

My dad always said, be nice, because once you’re mean they won’t believe nice anymore.
So be nice, be nice, until you can’t be nice anymore, then destroy them

[CptTrips]

Hey Dale;

Still think it was a good idea to let this guy back in? 

Which is a completely different question I have no opinion on.

IMHO, that is totally between HT and his customer.

I take no stand on that.  Just to be clear.

[knorB]

Which is a completely different question I have no opinion on.

IMHO, that is totally between HT and his customer.

I take no stand on that.  Just to be clear.

Same 

[Grind]

Just ignore him. If he's around, find another good stick, team up. Avoid the headons, don't give him a shot and sooner or later he'll be running. Then he will squeal about it, write some silly stuff about him being gangbanged etc, enjoy his whining and move on. If he returns, rinse and repeat. Once he starts running away or pulling the plug, you can go back to other things.

Fighting him is fun in its own perverse way. He shoots really well, I would say even better then Judge, so if you offer him a shot, you will likely get killed. If he misses, it's usually vertical E fight with his flaps and engine tricks, which he has mastered in planes he flies, so he is rather dangerous. So likely you will lose, if you don't care about your score, there is some fun to be had. To make his life hell, bring a good wingman to whack him upside the head as he kills you Despite all his claims he ain't so hot in 1 vs 2 or 1 vs 3.

Whole situation is sad, really. He flies a lot and it shows in his shooting and flying. He's good at this game, do doubt about that. If he wasn't such a flawed human, he would likely be remembered amongst the great ones. And this is what he wants. But everything he does ensures his legacy as a best known griefer of aces high. No matter how many 1 vs 1s he wins, no matter how many people he fights, he will never get what he wants .

Anyway, just ignore him. If he comes after you, find a friend, call on me if I'm around. We might die a little but fights will be fun and we'll likely make him squeal a little

Or, just don’t engage with him. Go fight the other team, one hoard is as good as another.  Squelch works well too. Deep down the guy hates himself, just like everyone else hates him.

[Oldman731]

Are you saying that is a HTC Term of Service violation?  Can you specify the rule?

Not at all!  It was my reaction to his statement, "Am I saying we target players? Nope."

While there's no rule against targeting people, it must get wearying if you're repeatedly the target.  I have difficulty grasping the purpose of the exercise.

- oldman

[AKIron]

Sounds like you are calling "Player A" a cheater/hacker Animl. There is a process for reporting that. Posting here isn't it. Allow me to refer you to rule #7. And #8.