Violence against women

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Nifty


when is it ok for a woman to strike a man?

Its not okay..but someone twice the size or strength should not retaliate...walk away. You know you could easily kick the crap out of them, why bother?  You'll just have a cell for the evening, and in this state, you lose any Concealed Weapons permit that you may carry, or hope to carry someday.

[Hortlund]

This discussion is getting absurd. How many of you have kids? How many have been hit by your kids? How many hit back?

[Nifty]

exactly rip.   Two wrongs don't make a right to use the cliche.   The fact that a woman started it does not justify the retaliation, and the fact that there was retaliation does not negate the fact that the woman committed battery in the first place.

I don't think Thrawn has ever made the point that retaliation in domestic violence is acceptable.  If anything he's making the point that I'm making.  Hitting your spouse (hell, or hitting anyone else) is wrong, regardless of the sex or circumstances (barring the other spouse threatening a/your life and you have no other course of action, such as fleeing).

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by Ripsnort


Its not okay..but someone twice the size or strength should not retaliate...walk away. You know you could easily kick the crap out of them, why bother?  You'll just have a cell for the evening, and in this state, you lose any Concealed Weapons permit that you may carry, or hope to carry someday.

Let me try this again.


In terms of damage done, this study found theat levels of medical care, days off work, and time spent bedridden were not significantly different between the sexes (162-163)

See "Violent Marriages: Gender Differences in Levels of Current Violence and Past Abuse," Journal of Family Violence 10:2 (1995), 159-175.

Rip the man is not nesscessarily the larger of the couple.  He may also not have the same will do be violent as the women.



And Nifty is bang on about my feelings regarding domestic violence.

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by Hortlund
This discussion is getting absurd. How many of you have kids? How many have been hit by your kids? How many hit back?

Why is it absub?  I thought we were discussing domestic spousal abuse.  Are you setting kids up as a straw man?

[Gman]

edit.

[scspook]

Originally posted by Maverick
Gents,

 Been there many MANY times on the job.

Sounds like a brother in blue with sound advice. ! from Australia

[Elfenwolf]

Well, I am 6'1, 190 lbs., run 3 miles every morning and stay in shape. My wife is 5'6 125 lbs., and if we got in a fistfight my superior jab and footwork could counteract her body attack and dirty tatics. Of course I'm 8 years older, so if she's patient she could wear me down, work me into a corner and punish me.

In all seriousness, Maverick is right. We lose more cops in the line of duty answering domestic violence complaints than to any other type of call. Personally I could care less if two idiots want to stay married while they beat each others' heads in once a week, but the sad fact is that domestic violence is a learned behavior, and their  kids end up growing up thinking this is how you solve marital disputes with your spouse.

It's unfortunate we don't have the budget for social programs that might remove kids from homes after x-number of police visits for domestic violence disputes, but what can we do? Sterilize people?

[Maverick]

Arizona has a program called Child Protective Service. The do yank kids from homes where there has bee abuse of the kids. Pretty tough to sever parental rights (rightly so) but it is a step to help out.

scspook. Yep old blue suiter, retired. If you also are on the thin blue line, remember goal one is to go home at the end of the shift.