Author Topic: Looney Left Strikes Again (Read 1343 times)

Eagler · « **on:** June 26, 2002, 01:40:18 PM »

Only in San Fran, home of everything wierd & queer:

SAN FRANCISCO –– A federal appeals court ruled Wednesday that the Pledge of Allegiance is an unconstitutional endorsement of religion and cannot be recited in schools.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A49473-2002Jun26.html

sling322 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 26, 2002, 01:54:59 PM »

So...when does the big one hit that will slide CA off into the ocean never to bother us again?

Sandman · « **Reply #2 on:** June 26, 2002, 02:10:00 PM »

Excellent. The courts get it.

Sling... read up on plate tectonics. California isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

Oh... and I guess this means it's time to re-mint our coins and remove the "In God We Trust" toejame...

Nifty · « **Reply #3 on:** June 26, 2002, 02:13:47 PM »

So does this mean that it will NOT be recited at all? Or does it mean that it will be recited pre-1954 without the words "under God" in it?

The ruling is correct though.

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"In this way we are reaffirming the transcendence of religious faith in America's heritage and future; in this way we shall constantly strengthen those spiritual weapons which forever will be our country's most powerful resource in peace and war." - Dwight D. Eisenhower, on why the two words were added to the pledge.

The words were added 100% as a religious endorsement.

I don't believe in your God, Eagler. Why should I include Him in a Pledge to our country? We are not one nation under God. We might have been at the initial stages were almost every American was a Christian. Since then, there are agnostic/atheists, Jewish, Islamic, Hindu, Buddhist, etc that are all American citizens. We're not a nation under any one divine power. Therefore the Pledge as it stands now is not just an unconstitutional endorsement, it's flat out incorrect.

I don't like your football team either (except when they play Miami! or Auburn. or Alabama, but that's just to cheese off hblair!)

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #4 on:** June 26, 2002, 02:15:49 PM »

The only time I recited the Pledge of Allegience in school was when I was in grade school. For whatever reason, despite my HS being a catholic HS, they stopped doing it.

Then I went to a public HS for my last year, and they naturally (because of "that" one line) didn't recite anything either.

I dunno, it's still the Pledge of Allegience even if you strike out "one nation under God", isn't it? If they are so concerned with it, they could just do a teleprompter at the front of the class room "...one nation under [insert your deity], indvisible..."
-SW

koala · « **Reply #5 on:** June 26, 2002, 02:16:58 PM »

Yet another handsomehunk court ruling.

I'm an agnostic btw.

Sandman · « **Reply #6 on:** June 26, 2002, 02:17:37 PM »

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Originally posted by Nifty
...We're not a nation under any one divine power.

Not even the lord god dubya?

Ripsnort · « **Reply #7 on:** June 26, 2002, 02:18:53 PM »

San Francisco.

Nuff said.

Sandman · « **Reply #8 on:** June 26, 2002, 02:20:47 PM »

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Originally posted by AKSWulfe
The only time I recited the Pledge of Allegience in school was when I was in grade school. For whatever reason, despite my HS being a catholic HS, they stopped doing it.

Then I went to a public HS for my last year, and they naturally (because of "that" one line) didn't recite anything either.

I dunno, it's still the Pledge of Allegience even if you strike out "one nation under God", isn't it? If they are so concerned with it, they could just do a teleprompter at the front of the class room "...one nation under [insert your deity], indvisible..."
-SW

Is it unconstitutional to require a pledge of allegiance regardless of the "under god" line?

I've taken a few oaths. Once during my enlistment, again for my re-enlistment and then again when I became a federal employee, but that's different. It's entirely voluntary.

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #9 on:** June 26, 2002, 02:22:57 PM »

I dunno Sandman, but it was a requirement for me... I guess it's just how you get raised. Not saying it's bad or anything to not say the Pledge of Allegience, it's just "strange" to me since that's how I was raised.
-SW

Sandman · « **Reply #10 on:** June 26, 2002, 02:26:24 PM »

Breaking from conformity is always uncomfortable. After awhile, it gets easier.

midnight Target · « **Reply #11 on:** June 26, 2002, 02:30:51 PM »

Does it matter Eagler or Ripsnort that this is the 9th Circuit Court, a FEDERAL court which covers about 9 western States and has absolutely nothing to do with San Francisco except its location? Does it matter that the Cheif Judge of the 9th Circuit was an Arizona Federal Judge prior to moving over to the 9th Court of appeals in 1979?
Only in the mind of a Reactionary would the connection with San Francisco make a difference in this decision.

sheesh:rolleyes:

Mickey1992 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 26, 2002, 02:31:16 PM »

One federal court says that Ohio's motto can be "With God All Things Are Possible", but another court says that "God" should not appear in the Pledge of Allegiance?

http://www.ag.state.oh.us/pressrel/mottoupheld.htm

koala · « **Reply #13 on:** June 26, 2002, 02:45:32 PM »

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One federal court says that Ohio's motto can be "With God All Things Are Possible", but another court says that "God" should not appear in the Pledge of Allegiance?

Like I said, yet another handsomehunk court ruling. Our judiciary system is getting dumber every year.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #14 on:** June 26, 2002, 02:47:32 PM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
Does it matter that the Cheif Judge of the 9th Circuit was an Arizona Federal Judge prior to moving over to the 9th Court of appeals in 1979?
Only in the mind of a Reactionary would the connection with San Francisco make a difference in this decision.

sheesh:rolleyes:

He's had 23 years there, it only takes a local SF cult 1 month to brainwash the weak minded, took the judges alittle longer....