Author Topic: US cannabis refugees cross border (Read 1244 times)

10Bears · « **on:** July 22, 2002, 02:43:33 PM »

http://www.guardian.co.uk/bush/story/0,7369,758761,00.html

'Persecuted' medicinal marijuana users seek asylum in Canada

Duncan Campbell in Los Angeles
Saturday July 20, 2002
The Guardian

A group of Americans are seeking political asylum in Canada, claiming they face persecution by their own government because of their use of medicinal marijuana.

Their cases are being considered by the Canadian legal authorities, who are assessing whether they face "genuine fear of persecution" if they are sent back.

Hundreds of Americans have crossed the border into Canada in recent months following clampdowns ordered by the attorney general, John Ashcroft, on medicinal marijuana clubs that exist in states where voters have passed measures approving
them.

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One of the best known American fugitives in Canada is Renee Boje, whom the US wishes to extradite to stand trial for cultivating cannabis plants at the home of
Todd McCormick, a cancer patient and medicinal marijuana activist in LA. She had watered the plants on his behalf.

"I'm a member of a class of society they're trying to oppress or wipe out completely," Renee Boje told the online news network, AlterNet from her home in Vancouver, British Columbia.

If convicted, she faces a minimum sentence of ten years. The length of that sentence is part of her plea that she faces unjust persecution if she were to return home. "There are hundreds of Americans here because they are being
persecuted by their own government."

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Yeah, those damn liburals... If we had a Republican government, they belive in states rights!

How do you relieve cancer patients their pain?... Why throw em' in prison for 10 years thats how.

Manedew · « **Reply #1 on:** July 22, 2002, 02:53:55 PM »

damn the man

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #2 on:** July 22, 2002, 02:54:21 PM »

"US Government... the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems" -- me ripping off Homer Simpson.
-SW

Udie · « **Reply #3 on:** July 22, 2002, 03:08:20 PM »

In this regard I hate mr Ashcroft. They keep coming down on this and it will make me leave the party over one issue. Honestly there are 2 reasons why I haven't.

1. Democrats in washington lie through thier teeth everytime they speak.

2. Where is a conservative pot smoker supposed to go for representation?

midnight Target · « **Reply #4 on:** July 22, 2002, 03:14:03 PM »

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Originally posted by Udie
In this regard I hate mr Ashcroft. They keep coming down on this and it will make me leave the party over one issue. Honestly there are 2 reasons why I haven't.

1. Democrats in washington lie through thier teeth everytime they speak.

2. Where is a conservative pot smoker supposed to go for representation?

ROFL...

I'll try to help Udie.

1. so do Republicans
2. You must be getting the cheap stuff if you smoke it and continue to be a conservative.

majic · « **Reply #5 on:** July 22, 2002, 03:21:53 PM »

I'm not a doctor or pharmacist so I have to ask: Is marijuana the only pain reliever available for cancer patients or is this a thinly veiled attempt to legalize it? (like: we can make rope out of it so it must be good.)

Hangtime · « **Reply #6 on:** July 22, 2002, 03:26:37 PM »

I'll take heroin instead then.

henh.

GET YER FAT SLAP HAPPY GOVERNMENT HANDS OFF MY STASH, ASHCROFT!

Henh. Buncha commie martyrs runnin the guvment nowdays.

Curval · « **Reply #7 on:** July 22, 2002, 04:42:49 PM »

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Originally posted by majic
I'm not a doctor or pharmacist so I have to ask: Is marijuana the only pain reliever available for cancer patients or is this a thinly veiled attempt to legalize it? (like: we can make rope out of it so it must be good.)

The medicinal qualities of ganja are not limited to pain relief. Smoking, or eating it, is an all natural way to reduce pain and stimulate appetite...something no other drug can do without serious side effects. This makes it especially valuable in treating cancer patients.

It has also been shown to have some very beneficial qualities in treating serious cases of ADD. It calms the patient to the point that they can concentrate on a single function.

Keeping it illegal is a "not so thinly" veiled attempt by the producers of the unnatural, man made, mass produced drugs to keep weed off the shelves.

BUG_EAF322 · « **Reply #8 on:** July 22, 2002, 05:25:09 PM »

Again medically marihuana is softdrugs alcohol is hard drugs

many sientist tried to find the negative aspect of marihuna

They failed finding any instead it has a lot of positive aspects

.again USA is going a long way on this coz of people unknown to the "drug" and some political hard asses.

Look at holland and u know it

Marihuana is not bad at all

i'm doing it more than 15 years and i work normally and i'm never sick at work

I even just made a beautiful healthfull daughter (also no effect on that)

What's the problem huh ???

This would be different if i would drink every day wich we find normal

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #9 on:** July 22, 2002, 05:36:33 PM »

Add glaucoma and other eye traumas to the list of things marijuana would help out 10x more than anything on the shelves.

You know, it's funny, there's commercials every day 24/7 for OTC drugs.. Paxil, whatever... those drugs that are supposed to make you feel better or whatever, for depression, anyone ever listened to the list of side effects when the commercial is over? toejam, is it ever WORTH taking those things when you hear the list of side effects?

The current crop of synthetic pain killers is no different, the side effects they have... well, lets say you'd probably have second thoughts if you paid attention.

Marijuana, OTOH, doesn't have a side effect aside from potentially causing lung cancer. But when you are dying from cancer, or have a massive build-up of fluid in your eyes and they hurt like all hell, then you'll take a puff of that joint and be happier than a clam in no time flat.

It takes a nice synthetic pain killer cocktail to get anything close to that... which is a good several hundred dollars (probably approaching thousand) every month... while a dub sack ($20) would last someone a week or more...

Legalize it for medicinal purposes, decriminalize it for everyone else. Believe me, life ain't gonna do a 180 into barbaric times where everyone starts killing each other... shoot, we're already there with the riots we have.
-SW

SC-Sp00k · « **Reply #10 on:** July 22, 2002, 05:41:01 PM »

You people are fooling yourselves and advocating its use to those who dont know any better.

Dope and Cancer patients. I've no real complaint. Anything that relieves their pain is acceptable in my books.

Dope and its medicinal, non negative aspects however is laughable. When you have years of dealing with schizophrenics aged anywhere from 13 and above who are heavy dope users, you come and tell me it causes no problems.

I dont believe Dope leads to harder drugs. I dont believe that in small quantities it will harm you. I firmly believe however that Cannabis use, particularly among the young leads from experimentation and light use to heavy use. Because its cool, its mellow and everyone does it.

When your a heavy user, it is my firm opinion that it leads to depression and in some cases, schizophrenia.

Sure some never show any symptoms of either problem. However theres more than enough of them to be found mumbling to themselves in public places, cutting their arms in attempts at self harm, etc etc.

Can Marijuana be harmful to your health. Of course it can. Look at any hippy.

lord dolf vader · « **Reply #11 on:** July 22, 2002, 05:41:21 PM »

cause they (the government) thinks they cant make money off it or really control it at all and liquor sales would plummet.

.

lord dolf vader · « **Reply #12 on:** July 22, 2002, 05:45:11 PM »

p.s. spook marajuana is the least toxic psychoactive drug on earth. there is no toxic dose level.

there has never been one death from pot or pot derivatives in the history of medical science.

saying that people with mental problems use pot so pot must be bad for your is a sorry argument they drink water to so it must be bad for you right? sorry just bad logic.

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #13 on:** July 22, 2002, 05:49:37 PM »

Sp00k-

"When your a heavy user, it is my firm opinion that it leads to depression and in some cases, schizophrenia."

It does not lead to schizophrenia at all. Unless you are pre-disposed towards depression or schizophrenia, then it won't cause it.

You just happen to deal with the bottom rung, the people who shouldn't of been doing dope to begin with because they were more than likely already chemically imbalanced or not playing with a full deck of cards.

The rest who smoke dope... they're walking all around you. Successful, normal people... you just don't hear about 'em cuz they don't make good posters.

They ain't gonna put a corporate business person who owns his own small $13mil/year company who smokes on an anti-marijuana poster.

Of course, a heavy dope abuser is no different than a heavy alcohol abuser. They're both miserable... one just likes to smoke rather than drink their life away.
-SW

10Bears · « **Reply #14 on:** July 22, 2002, 05:49:44 PM »

Hey Nash

Can I still get a job pickin' strawberrys in the Okanagen Valley? Rvelstoke is nice