Author Topic: A Community Vote On The La-7 (Read 7153 times)

oboe · « **Reply #105 on:** March 04, 2003, 07:19:56 AM »

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Originally posted by Urchin
...Overusage isn't an issue, the La-7, P-51, and Spit IX have been holding steady at about 10% usage apiece, the F4U-1C was at ~20% when it was perked...

This statistic does indicate overuse to me. If its based on #kills, and if its true that poorer pilots prefer these aircraft, then actual usage (# of sorties) is probably much higher...

Shane · « **Reply #106 on:** March 04, 2003, 07:46:11 AM »

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Originally posted by oboe
This statistic does indicate overuse to me. If its based on #kills, and if its true that poorer pilots prefer these aircraft, then actual usage (# of sorties) is probably much higher...

then you're saying the actual useage of c-hogs was WAY higher??

lazs2 · « **Reply #107 on:** March 04, 2003, 08:06:51 AM »

rude.. no. pee 51's and dee 9's are simply annoying... if they fight they die. perhaps one in a thousand does ok when he mixes it up but nothing spectacular... that person would do well in anything tho.

if you fly an La7 you start out with an advantage over at least 90% of the other non perked planes. How much or little you make of that is up to the pilot.

The fact remains tho that the La is a good enough turner and the guns are bad enough and the ammo load is small enough that.... the plane has to or, is tempted to, fight.... no such temptations or restrictions apply to the pee and dee.
lazs

Rude · « **Reply #108 on:** March 04, 2003, 08:32:46 AM »

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Originally posted by akak
Had the pleasure of running into you and another P-51 the other day and you both made me work really hard to get you both. I never found out who your wingman was but you guys really worked very well together, too bad your wingman extended just a little too far to be able to reverse in time but that was the only mistake either of you guys made in a good fight.

Ack-Ack

You fought the good fight for sure....you handle that 38 well.

My mistake was that I missed the com from my wingie that you were the threat and not the yak on his six....I tried to squeeze in between you and that yak....you held your E well.

I'll get ya next time....maybe:)

Dowding · « **Reply #109 on:** March 04, 2003, 08:40:28 AM »

I don't have any qualms about engaging an La-7. My uber-trusty Yak-9U kicks its bellybutton most of the time. It handles better at low speed and turns better. The only danger is other aircraft that pick you off as you lose E to fight the La-7.

Rude · « **Reply #110 on:** March 04, 2003, 08:42:28 AM »

Now Lazs.....would you really expect a 51 to try and stall fight with an FM2? You are correct in that it's hard to find a 51 or dora that will engage agressively....I can only speak for the few 51 pilots I mentioned earlier....they do not extend to the point of boredom.

It's apples and oranges in my book....to expect the same brand of fight from all planes in the arena is unrealistic....if you prefer the tighter faster more agressive fights, then I don't blame ya a bit.

I've found myself getting irritated at the unwillingness of most to get after it....I fly around beneath them, giving them an alt and energy advantage, only to wait and wait and wait. Out of character for me personally, I'm even whinin about it on ch 1:)

lazs2 · « **Reply #111 on:** March 04, 2003, 09:19:22 AM »

exactly my point rude.. I don't expect the same fight from all planes. that is why I am happy to see some planes and unhappy to see others. Which of course.... was the whole point.

your point is more like something I saw.... drex was beating up p38's with a ju88... He was using the plane in a manner that it was not meant and mking up for it with a great deal orf skill. Not many could do that. It is not worth talking about in a ju88 discussion.
lazs

Rude · « **Reply #112 on:** March 04, 2003, 09:51:42 AM »

I catch your drift.....I just don't think things will ever change much...remember, this endeavor is about profit.....for that to occur, the mass market, not the individual, must be satisfied.

Looks like we just need to play our own game within the game...get with Jay and we'll hook the squads up for some early war fun:)

gofaster · « **Reply #113 on:** March 04, 2003, 10:02:27 AM »

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Originally posted by Masherbrum
The Dora sucks almost as bad, I like the A-8, it will chew a town to pieces in a few passes.

The A8 will chew anything to pieces in a second. Its just as good for chewing up towns as it is for chewing up M-16s and M8s. Its the only 190 I'll fly now. I've never had much luck in a Dora. If I want high speed I'll take a P-51 or a Yak9U.

gofaster · « **Reply #114 on:** March 04, 2003, 10:04:35 AM »

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Originally posted by Dowding
I don't have any qualms about engaging an La-7. My uber-trusty Yak-9U kicks its bellybutton most of the time. It handles better at low speed and turns better. The only danger is other aircraft that pick you off as you lose E to fight the La-7.

I've been there. I feel your pain. I'll be saddled up on an LA-7 in my Yak just to have a Spitfire come raining down on me and knock me out of the sky.

gofaster · « **Reply #115 on:** March 04, 2003, 10:08:26 AM »

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Originally posted by hogenbor
Perk La-7, Fw-190D-9, Me-109G-10, P51-D

Yes I mean that.

The G10 is a death trap for me. I don't think I've ever managed to get as many kills in it as I have nose-plants from compression. The only 109s I can fly aggressively are the F and G2 (and sometimes the G6).

hogenbor · « **Reply #116 on:** March 04, 2003, 10:34:10 AM »

I don't fly the G-10 that much, but map elevator trim to your stick and you'll be able to avoid becoming a crater.

I suck at using the 30mm but that's exactly the reason I sometimes fly it when I want a challenge. As a matter of fact you CAN use it very agressively, the trick is not to turn at low speeds and using the vertical.

CROOKS · « **Reply #117 on:** March 04, 2003, 10:37:49 AM »

No PERK

lazs2 · « **Reply #118 on:** March 04, 2003, 10:48:12 AM »

rude... I didn't say to perk any of the current planes only that I don'd want the LA7 perked and that if you had to perk something I would perk the dee9 and pee51 before the La7 since they are more annoying and less fun to be around for me. or....

having pee 51's and dee 9's in the game makes is less fun than having La7's in the game... for me.
lazs

Furious · « **Reply #119 on:** March 04, 2003, 11:57:31 AM »

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Originally posted by Rude
...I've found myself getting irritated at the unwillingness of most to get after it....I fly around beneath them, giving them an alt and energy advantage, only to wait and wait and wait...

I agree whole-heartedly with this statement. Lately it is real frikkin hard to get someone to fight ya.

The AH defacto flight profile has become, climb really freakin high over your own base, if you have a huge amount of friends maybe head in direction of enemy base, spot enemy 10k below, make diving HO pass, miss, fly a sector away.