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SirLoin · « **Reply #60 on:** July 31, 2003, 01:47:41 PM »

Gay couples can now legally get married in Canada...It's time to wake up and quit discriminating.

rc51 · « **Reply #61 on:** July 31, 2003, 01:48:02 PM »

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Originally posted by banana
Apache, let me try to get my point across a different way. Most marriges, after say, 20-30 years, start to rely less on sex than they do companionship. Can we all agree that our 80 year old grandparents are not staying with the relationship because of the hot sex?

Since you seem to assume that all gay relationships are based on nothing but sodomy, what about elderly gay relationships that have lasted 30 or 40 years? Surely, elderly gay couples find happiness with each other based on companionship and love, not on sodomy, do they not?

Well if they aint doin it in da butt then maybe they take out there false teeth and Gum each other off!!

OH GUMBY OH GUMBY I'm ready you studd.

Yeager · « **Reply #62 on:** July 31, 2003, 01:52:59 PM »

I support keeping marriage an act of faith and love between a man and a woman.

I dont care if two people of the same sex want to be lawfully united, or partnered...whatever. But I want to keep lawful marriage traditional.

Wanker · « **Reply #63 on:** July 31, 2003, 02:05:49 PM »

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these big campaigns to change the cariclum in school where you have to tell kids it's an exceptable "life choice".

Capt. Apathy, as a former teacher and a parent, I can tell you right now that every child needs and wants to feel accepted for who they are. The schools do not preach that being gay is acceptable, they preach that whomever *you* are, is ok, where "you" can mean anything from a band geek to a football jock to a gay person, etc.

Imagine how you'd feel when you were 16 and full of lust for girls, and you were told you were a pervert, or a freak, or worse.

Gay people keep trying to tell us heteroes that they did not choose to be gay, they just *are* gay. When the hormones kick in, nobody gets to fill out a "I like girls" form. It just happens. It's one of those "birds & bees"(or in some cases "birds & birds) things.

Could some heterosexual out there(you know who you are) please tell me at what point in their life they chose to want to fornicate with the opposite sex?

Raubvogel · « **Reply #64 on:** July 31, 2003, 02:08:10 PM »

We don't need God or any other belief system to tell us it's wrong. Mother Nature herself does that job just fine. If men were meant to intimately check each other's prostates, there would be a whole world full of butthole babies.

What they do is their business and I really don't give a damn. But they sure as hell shouldn't get the same legal benefits that heterosexual couples have.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #65 on:** July 31, 2003, 02:08:27 PM »

I really do not know why this type of topic always has to degenerate into something ugly, but it invariably does.

Next tacky remark will see some attention. Stay on topic.

Wanker · « **Reply #66 on:** July 31, 2003, 02:14:11 PM »

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What they do is their business and I really don't give a damn. But they sure as hell shouldn't get the same legal benefits that heterosexual couples have.

Raub, why not?

funkedup · « **Reply #67 on:** July 31, 2003, 02:15:29 PM »

I think the Pope is right that the sacrament of marriage should not apply to homosexuals.
But the Catholic sacrament of marriage and the legal institution of marriage are two completely different things, at least in the US, where we have separation of church and state.
I think what we need to do is come up with a different term for gay marriages (I suggest "gayrriage" or "homatrimony") so that people like the Pope won't get upset that the state is defiling their sacrament of marriage by letting gays get married.
I also think that it would be unfair to extend the legal benefits of marriage only to homosexuals. I think if a bunch of straight guys are sharing an apartment they should be eligible for the same benefits.

capt. apathy · « **Reply #68 on:** July 31, 2003, 02:17:36 PM »

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A very close friend of my family is a very well respected Doctor who is the head of Pediatrics at a large Hospital in the US.

When my grandfather was ill he helped to save his life...twice.

My father went into a Hepatitis coma a few years later. The doctors here almost killed him by leaving his IV drips on full for a long period of time. Once again our doctor friend came to the rescue and told my step mother what she needed to do after she paniced and called him.

The man has helped and litterally saved thousands of children from abusive homes and has donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to help stamp out child abuse. He is the author of a number of books on the subject.

He is also gay.

You homo-phobes out there should stop and think about that for a few minutes.

so.. What, being gay makes him be a good DR and a caring person? it's imposable to do a good job and be a caring person without sleeping with other men? exactly what is your point?

as others have mentioned it's not a problem with gays, it's a problem with their behavior (in this one area) homosexual activity is deviant and IMO imoral. just because someone participates in an imoral activity doesn't make every aspect of their life worthless.

just as many of the adulterers I work with are otherwise good people. many are good workers, excellent craftsmen, freely giving of their time and effort if they see someone in trouble or need. all around great guys, but it doesn't make adultery a moraly upstanding activity that should be recognised and legitimised by society. Clinton did an exceptional job as president, but that doesn't make his adultery ok. if it where legal I'd have voted him in for another term. as his adultery was a personal moral issue between him her and his wife, it wouldn't effect my vote. but if he wanted to change the laws to have our gov't sanction adulterous behavior I'd fight that.

I don't advocate some sort of consentration camp or other way to 'contol' people or other discrimitor act against gays. thsi isn't about their basic rights being denied in areas unrelated to their deviance. this is just our refusing to except as ok one part of their lives on this earth, the part that is imoral and wrong.

as Rude put it quite well--

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I love them as God loves me....it's their lifestyle and the sin which I'm against.

Raubvogel · « **Reply #69 on:** July 31, 2003, 02:24:11 PM »

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Raub, why not?

My question is why?

Lance · « **Reply #70 on:** July 31, 2003, 02:24:59 PM »

Uh, because they are people who have jobs, pay taxes and help make the world go round just like you, Raub?

straffo · « **Reply #71 on:** July 31, 2003, 02:26:42 PM »

No-one noticed that the Gay have often been grown by Heterosexual ?

Hmmm ... I see a patern ...

Sixpence · « **Reply #72 on:** July 31, 2003, 02:28:39 PM »

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Originally posted by Skuzzy
I really do not know why this type of topic always has to degenerate into something ugly, but it invariably does.

Next tacky remark will see some attention. Stay on topic.

Do you read every post on every thread? lol, how do you keep your sanity?

Raubvogel · « **Reply #73 on:** July 31, 2003, 02:31:29 PM »

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Uh, because they are people who have jobs, pay taxes and help make the world go round just like you, Raub?

Relax Lance, you can still live with Kip and do whatever it is you do. I just don't think that he should receive health benefits, etc because you want to get "married."

midnight Target · « **Reply #74 on:** July 31, 2003, 02:32:15 PM »

So lets just play with the facts for a second and assume that homosexuality IS a choice.

Now what exactly is the LEGAL reason to disallow a couple who have made this "choice" to legally live as a pair? What is the LEGAL argument that would preclude them from having spousal rights such as visitation in a hospital or inheritance or filing joint tax returns, or ADOPTING?

Heck, in texas a gay couple is just as "immoral" as a hetero couple that uses a vibrator. Maybe people who adopt should be asked about vibrator usage. Or maybe the only good parents in the world are the ones who limit sex to the missionary position.