Author Topic: Finally : First time I p*ssed people off by shooting them down! (Read 2460 times)

Linz · « **Reply #15 on:** August 08, 2003, 11:26:53 AM »

I alvays squelch ch1...

AKWeav · « **Reply #16 on:** August 08, 2003, 11:35:25 AM »

Anyone else get the feeling that maybe Slap was one of those N1k pilots?

john9001 · « **Reply #17 on:** August 08, 2003, 11:39:25 AM »

what i hate is when them wussy 262's run away from my pee 38, why don't they turn fight me?

i always turn chan 1 off.

AKweave, i thought that also...lol

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SlapShot · « **Reply #18 on:** August 08, 2003, 11:49:06 AM »

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Originally posted by AKWeav
Anyone else get the feeling that maybe Slap was one of those N1k pilots?

LOL ... nope 'twasn't me ... don't fly the N1K, but I have been in those shoes too many times lately ... hoping that the guy will turn and fight.

muckmaw · « **Reply #19 on:** August 08, 2003, 12:05:15 PM »

Tell me about it. Nothing worse than being in an FM2 following a guy 10K above you in a pony, hoping he'll come back down and fight.

It's frustrating, but what can you do?

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #20 on:** August 08, 2003, 12:11:13 PM »

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Originally posted by muckmaw
It's frustrating, but what can you do?

Sucker him.

-- Todd/Leviathn

muckmaw · « **Reply #21 on:** August 08, 2003, 12:17:56 PM »

You mean open the canopy and flash nudie pics at him?

Fly around in a circle and look like my aileron is broken?

How do you sucker someone?

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #22 on:** August 08, 2003, 12:24:26 PM »

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Originally posted by muckmaw
You mean open the canopy and flash nudie pics at him?

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That depends on whose nudie pics they are. You want to sucker him, not nauseate him.

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Fly around in a circle and look like my aileron is broken?

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You've got the right idea. The essence of suckering means you make yourself look like as appetizing a target as possible. To that end, you pretend to autoclimb while afk, act like you're floundering with low E, and/or basically present what the enemy feels is a sure kill without danger to himself.

Then, when he bites and blows all that E, you kill him.

Okay, I admit that the killing him part is harder than the suckering part. But you can still work on suckering the guy whether you actually kill him once he comes down or not.

-- Todd/Leviathn

muckmaw · « **Reply #23 on:** August 08, 2003, 12:29:04 PM »

The way I'm flying these days, I'd be better off if the other planes left me alone...last thing I want to do is entice them.

Seriously, I'll give that a try but I'd be willing to wager 9 times outta 10 that "Sucker" goes home with my scalp.

I really need to get some training in.

Steve · « **Reply #24 on:** August 08, 2003, 01:14:11 PM »

"Now, for everyone's benefit, what would you do, step by step, to win the engagement? Remember, your in a Pony, let's say 1/2 tank, 5K alt advantage over 2 Nikis. No bases or CVs nearby. "

I'm salivating, just reading this. Cmon Slap... tell him.

5K alt advantage, no enemy, no enemy base, no enemy cv in site.

Oh my, excuse me while I go get a towel, I'm drooling on my keyboard.

muckmaw · « **Reply #25 on:** August 08, 2003, 01:19:36 PM »

Steve-

I'm not sure you read me right. That's the problem with the internet. I'm being sincere. Much like the other thread about how to merge in an F6F, I'm just trying to learn how to be more successful in a dogfight.

If you have an answer, please share it. It would be of great help.

Thanks.

Steve · « **Reply #26 on:** August 08, 2003, 01:29:51 PM »

Muck, I'd love to. If Slap hasn't answered by the time I'm out of a couple of upcoming meetings, we'll discuss it together.

Awulf · « **Reply #27 on:** August 08, 2003, 01:38:11 PM »

Mucks got the right idea here...

If you have the knowledge there are those of us (and I put myself at the front of the line) who would love to hear what the good/experienced pilots here would do in those given situations.

slimm50 · « **Reply #28 on:** August 08, 2003, 01:52:35 PM »

Hogenbor,
Congrats on flyin' a smart and savy sorty. I agree with your reasoning 100%. My main goal when I fly is to have fun. Second most importantly to me is to have fun and survive, with honor. Now, I admit, my main fault is being too imaptient. I love to fly the Pony, but I'll try to turn-fight with anyone, anytime, usually to my chagrin. Wish I had more of your patience. WTG!

john9001 · « **Reply #29 on:** August 08, 2003, 02:00:19 PM »

<<"Now, for everyone's benefit, what would you do, step by step, to win the engagement? Remember, your in a Pony, let's say 1/2 tank, 5K alt advantage over 2 Nikis. No bases or CVs nearby. " >>

i would come diving down at full power, spraying them with 50's, and when they broke i would go vert on wep and then roll over on them and "dance on their heads". and they would say "chicken p51 dweeb , turn and fight us, you runstang you"

oh, did you say "win the fight"?... i don't know , shoot them down?

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