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Sixpence · « **Reply #135 on:** November 22, 2003, 06:41:36 PM »

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Originally posted by meddog
Hey Sixpence. I'm studing the Constitution and the forefathers who wrote it and I see no evidece to support your claim. Infact Reagan has it right and is supported by the Constitution and by the men who wrote it.

" "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature [Congress - ed.] should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between church and state." - Thomas Jefferson

Jackal1 · « **Reply #136 on:** November 22, 2003, 07:03:05 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
poor little jakal pup... I can see why you are so defensive... you play countless hours and yet.... every time you are in a fighter there is a better than even chance that no matter what the guy you run into is flying or how badly he sucks at the game or what shape his plane is in or ... even if he initially sees you or not.... he has a better than even chance of handing you your butt.

I can see where tha furball would just be far too overwhelming for yu.... why you would wish to make the map more spread out and have the "missun" mentality.

I just don't think the rest of us should have to suffer for your lack of skill.
lazs

lmao Humpy The Wonder Pooch peeks out from behind someones ankle and whimpers again. Until you get out of the little shell you play in you can`t tell anyone about nothing pertaining to the game. The prearranged, play it safe ,kill swapping you and the sister squad does is ...... well besides being lame as hell , I belive in common terms would be called chicken poop.

You try to speak for the furballer that actualy plays the game, but you can`t because what you define as furball is a far cry that what most players define as furball. Quit hiding behind everyone elses skirt and play the game. Then talk to us and share your infinite knowledge. Until then stay with the warm milk and thorazine treatment.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #137 on:** November 22, 2003, 07:22:39 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
but beetle..... festers map was "playing chess without kings" in your words.... like chess without kings.... it couldn't be won. guess you were wrong.

lazs

Humpster, this may come as a shock but the map was "let" to be reset by popular opinion and just plain boredom. Aint that a hoot?

BGBMAW · « **Reply #138 on:** November 22, 2003, 08:10:26 PM »

lazs,,the maps have been reset many times, i have seen atleast a dozen resets..while ive been on...

1 more thing..i think ur a hunk of crap..the way you bad mouth AKs map..why dont you make your own and stop putting other peopels maps down constantly.."AK map is an abortion"..makes me want to burn your corn shack down in dixon...happy floods this winter..and may your traffic on I 80 increase when ur on it

meddog · « **Reply #139 on:** November 22, 2003, 08:28:03 PM »

Nice quote Sixpence I take it your refering to the letter written by Thomas Jefferson to the Danburry Baptist Church because there is nothing written in our Constitution about the seperation of church and state. But do you actually know what it means or are you just like all the other sheep? Do you have any clue to who our founding fathers were, Who and what influenced them, who they quoted in their speeches and Biographies when they were writing our Declaration Of Indepencence and our Constitution. How about the types of Government that were established when the Puritans and the Pilgrams came over and why they chose that type of Government. If I had to venture a guess i'de say the answer is no.
Why don't you read" Christianity and the Constitution" by John Eidsmoe. Then get back to me about the 1st Amendment And while your at it read the judicial rulings prior to the 1930's. After reading these you will learn that the words are not just arbitrary words but have actual meaning to the people that wrote/spoke them.

1st of all when they say or wrote the word State, they meant (a) state, not the federal government. Meaning that they didn't want the church to run the local Government. They wanted a seperate intity to run the Government but one that was centered around God, Religion and Biblical laws. Therefore the "Seperation of Church and State" phrase was about who should run the Government and not about public or personal displays of religion on government property.

Secondly you will notice that Jeferson said Congress shall not.... since it's Congress who passes laws. It was designed to protect the peoples right to religious freedom not to shield them from religion. This is the "Freedom of Religion" phrase not the "Freedon from Religion" phrase. You will also know after reading about our founding fathers is that most of them were Calvinist and the colleges of those days were theological colleges

Sixpence · « **Reply #140 on:** November 23, 2003, 12:31:58 AM »

You saw what Jefferson wrote, and what he meant, what more do you want? Or did you live back then and know him. I guess you are the all mighty and know all. Through quotes of Jefferson, he clearly meant a separation of church and state. But this is all i'm gonna say, you seem to have it all figured out being a higher authority and all. Here is one point of view, but i'm sure you will pass it off as a biased opinion from a leftist site.

http://sonsofliberty.org/sanesociety/religion_and_1st_amendment.html

The word "state" also has an interesting usage, the one most prevalent during the 18th century being "a body of people occupying a defined territory and organized under a sovereign government"! So Jefferson's "wall of separation between church and state" was being precisely correct: the intent of the first clause of the First Amendment was to prohibit government from imposing, through federal law, any part of any church's religious concepts/practices/etc. upon the American citizenry: the "body of people occupying a defined territory (the United States of America) and organized under a sovereign government (the federal government: the fictitious entity created by the Constitution, which was "sovereign": independent of and equal to all other existing governments in the world, especially that of Great Britain).

BTW, it was written to shield the government from religion.

http://sonsofliberty.org/sanesociety/puritans.html
So if some of these laws were enacted today in Iowa, this would be what our founding fathers would approve of? If you say yes, I would disagree. You can read what you want and interpret it your way and I can read what I want and interpret it my way. We can read the same thing and come to 2 different conclusions.

http://www.usconstitution.net/jeffwall.html
You say you should know what they were thinking when they wrote the constitution. In Jefferson's letter he makes it quite clear what he was thinking. He put it in writing.

What you think think doesn't make you a sheep. You are entitled to your opinion. Unless, of course, religion gets into government, then your opinion would mean nothing if it didn't recognize that religion. BTW, bring it to the Oclub before we get Skuzzified.

beet1e · « **Reply #141 on:** November 23, 2003, 03:28:38 AM »

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Originally posted by BGBMAW
lazs,,the maps have been reset many times, i have seen atleast a dozen resets..while ive been on...

1 more thing..i think ur a hunk of crap..the way you bad mouth AKs map..why dont you make your own and stop putting other peopels maps down constantly.."AK map is an abortion"..makes me want to burn your corn shack down in dixon...happy floods this winter..and may your traffic on I 80 increase when ur on it

lazs2 · « **Reply #142 on:** November 23, 2003, 09:56:40 AM »

my... the chess masters of the sky sure do lose it eh? jakal... I didn't know the truth would bother you so much... If it bothers you so much then.... practice until yu can develop the skills needed to at least put up a decent fight... I think it is now a mindset... when you see another player... a red one... you just go "what's the use" and roll over with your little jakal hind legs spred and wimper.

bgb... I would welcome a visit from you... leave the nag home tho she seems to be too much for you and I don't need the aggrevation. I would get a life and just leave her but then... that's just me.
lazs

Jackal1 · « **Reply #143 on:** November 23, 2003, 12:35:24 PM »

Humpy, just go up your little pink training wheels plane and vulch your second account, save the films , then share your masterly skills with us dweeb. It`s about the same thing your doing now, but you just want have to whine to lap sitters to let you do it. Just think, you can be an Air Force of one.

Until you can speak on the subject of "the game" , spare yourself the humiliation of sitting in the corner mumbling to yourself.
I can just visulize the headlines now......
The 3rd Lameazz Division Of The Humpy Brigade Invades Putzwania.

Sixpence · « **Reply #144 on:** November 23, 2003, 04:08:57 PM »

Well, no matter what the map has been, i've managed to get shot down many times, so someone is having no problem finding a target.

Shiva · « **Reply #145 on:** November 23, 2003, 10:39:16 PM »

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Originally posted by Sixpence
So Jefferson's "wall of separation between church and state" was being precisely correct: the intent of the first clause of the First Amendment was to prohibit government from imposing, through federal law, any part of any church's religious concepts/practices/etc. upon the American citizenry ...

Nor can it subsidize, sponsor, or grant any preference to any church or religious belief.

Oh, and Meddog? if the founders had wanted the government to be run by an entity "that was centered around God, Religion and Biblical laws", perhaps you can explain why Article VI of the Constitution specifically states that no office -- federal or state, executive, legislative, or judicial -- can have a religious requirement?

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Article VI
The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.

lazs2 · « **Reply #146 on:** November 24, 2003, 08:03:36 AM »

jakal.. I don't think that all the films in the world would help you... yu seem to have a mindset that says you can't win unless the other guy is away from his computer or the map has put him to sleep.... festers map keeps people interested and awake so...

heck.. even the BB is pretty much deserted during the big maps and you can babble away... The less fun something is it seems.... the better for you.

lazs

Jackal1 · « **Reply #147 on:** November 24, 2003, 10:23:58 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
jakal.. I don't think that all the films in the world would help you... yu seem to have a mindset that says you can't win unless the other guy is away from his computer or the map has put him to sleep.... festers map keeps people interested and awake so...

heck.. even the BB is pretty much deserted during the big maps and you can babble away... The less fun something is it seems.... the better for you.

lazs

The films were for your enjoyment Humpy, not mine. I believe you would get off on watching yourself vulch your second account. I mean after all your kill swapping thingy seems to really toot your little horn.

Now for the "festers map keeps people interested and awake" statement. I know it`s hard for you to concentrate and comprehend in your delicate condition, but we`ll go over it again. #1 You don`t have a clue what interests folks in the game as you just come in for your mini bursts of kill swapping then your gone.
#2 (We could have avoided repeating this one if you could read and comprehend the earlier posts or chew buble gum and walk down the street at the same time as far as that goes,but I understand.

). The map kept people so intensely interested that it was "let" to be reset by popular choice. Go figure!

lazs2 · « **Reply #148 on:** November 24, 2003, 11:30:50 AM »

jakal... I don't have a second account.. why would I? I think we all understand that it is your inability to do well that motivates your wanting to not run into any action... Allways that chance that the next guy you face will have dozed off and you may have an allmost even chance of defeating him then.... if you don't auger trying that is.

lazs

Rude · « **Reply #149 on:** November 24, 2003, 12:33:26 PM »

Very thick folks here....it's all about choice and fun for EVERYONE....strat and furballs can co-exist if the map is designed in a way to allow that to happen....the strat contingent cannot seem to handle nor want to allow furballers to have the fun they are looking for.

You now have large maps where you can milkrun til you're blue in the face...Festers map came along and gave furballers a faster, easier and lower fight and some strat players cannot deal with that.

Festers map allows you to strat all you want to...of course, you'll have to take buffs up to a realistic alt or have them shot down...perhaps that's what displeases you.

Then again, it's probably just the fact that strat players are limited in ability and proven here on a daily basis, is their true talent of wailing like newborns...just think....if you could fight as well as you wail, you too would want a map which offers air to air combat rather than your placid, risk free air to ground exercises which promotes only the shrinking of your nads up into your sack....be men and fly like it....to be known as Women With Wings would personally bother me.

Later Girls