Author Topic: My 1st map whine, I guess (Read 2073 times)

Rutilant · « **Reply #30 on:** November 17, 2003, 05:46:45 PM »

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Originally posted by Samiam
Late model planes are far, far more unballancing on AKDesert than on FesterMA.

Well, that happens when people get in different planes..

It can't get very unbalanced when it's la7 vs la7

lazs2 · « **Reply #31 on:** November 17, 2003, 05:51:00 PM »

well this is confusing.... I don't think it is possible to win a chess game without kings nor is it possible to achieve personal goals... It is possible to do both in the fester map.... plus all those other things I mentioned.

maybe you meant that you sit down for both?
lazs

Rutilant · « **Reply #32 on:** November 17, 2003, 05:52:16 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
well this is confusing.... I don't think it is possible to win a chess game without kings nor is it possible to achieve personal goals... It is possible to do both in the fester map.... plus all those other things I mentioned.

maybe you meant that you sit down for both?
lazs

I'll give you one thing.. you really are the master troll.

beet1e · « **Reply #33 on:** November 17, 2003, 05:56:20 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
I don't think it is possible to win a chess game without kings nor is it possible to achieve personal goals... It is possible to do both in the fester map.... plus all those other things I mentioned.

Oh yeah? you can win a Chess game without Kings on the Fester map?

Hornet · « **Reply #34 on:** November 17, 2003, 07:12:30 PM »

blah blah...lets be blunt here.

Jackal claims FesterMA is a failure because he tried to play air-to-air on the "furball map" and failed. Is that really any sort of argument? Is this really the maps problem? The real question is, has Jackal had any success furballing on any map?

All this whining about maps, I see the guys who are fighter guys getting their fights on most every map, and I see guys I know are good buffers hitting their targets on FesterMA just fine.

As much as the "strat" guys emphasize planning, patience and coordination -- the buffs who get busted up are the idiots who come in low, alone, down the most likely path of attack, with no escort, and bad gunners.

They deserve the beatdown just like every idiot in a fighter who strings 2, 3, 4 tactical no-nos together.

Face it, the map whines protect more egos here than they ruin anyones gameplay.

Citabria · « **Reply #35 on:** November 17, 2003, 08:41:11 PM »

i hope to address the needs of the strat dweebs in a new map as well as the furball dweebs.

but for now with festerma averaging over 600+ people a night at prime time. well thats a good sign people are having fun.

Rutilant · « **Reply #36 on:** November 17, 2003, 08:57:33 PM »

is this on sundays? That's just rook's 'Bring your Kid to Work' day, it don't count..

Plus i've seen those kinda numbers on trinity and pizza.

It's a good map, but one can only battle hoards of la7s so long before it becomes.. erm.. dull.

JustJim · « **Reply #37 on:** November 18, 2003, 01:04:53 AM »

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Originally posted by Citabria
omg teamwork????

*gasp*

Standing Ovation,,

you drove the nail home in 1 shot Fester wtg

I personally love this map for 1 reason alone it totally confuses most people. Including myself

Jackal1 · « **Reply #38 on:** November 18, 2003, 03:30:32 AM »

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Originally posted by Hornet

Jackal claims FesterMA is a failure because he tried to play air-to-air on the "furball map" and failed.

Hold the phone there Marie! I damn sure didn`t say FesterMA was a failure, far from it. On the second point, I don`t call Lalas and N1ks in droves having a HO fest air-to-air. Maybe you, but not me.

There`s an observation from my point of view, simply put, an opinion, and 2 questions, nothing more.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #39 on:** November 18, 2003, 03:36:01 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
ok... so now I really am lost.
lazs

Now aint that a real news flash.

BGBMAW · « **Reply #40 on:** November 18, 2003, 04:47:01 AM »

lmfao..

i really wan tto cuss at any1 who says this map sucks...

i fly any plane in here,,,churri to typ..

and get all sorts of kills..

its a bueatiful map..

and 262's?!! hell thsi is the best map for it..how else do u kill ftrs in a ajet unl;ess they furballn?

and ..Muck i find ur lack of faith disturbing..as D. Vader says it..

Strat aALWAYS will play a part in this game....

you want long term strat?? then u flattn factoires..

you want short term strat?? u lazer bom airfileds...

Am i wrong??...no..im not:)

and btw..i fly a churrican/typ in there often..you can FLY ANY PlANE in here and kill....and its sweet..crap..i hear u gusy complaing about this map..seriuosly..i want u to leave and die

Love
BiGB
xxoxo

beet1e · « **Reply #41 on:** November 18, 2003, 04:58:31 AM »

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Originally posted by Rutilant
It's a good map, but one can only battle hoards of la7s so long before it becomes.. erm.. dull.

Hehe, now you know why I li.. er, appreciate the pizza map. Because it provides adequate field spacing and the altitude gets planes like the Lala out of their comfort zone. Fuel porkage missions get boring quickly, so instead of doing that the porkers whine on the BBS - waaah, no fights, waaah - more than 5 minutes to the nearest enemy base...

Hordes of LA7s, huh? Y'all do remember that the LA7 hordes was exactly what I predicted if the fields were moved too close together? Yep, and LA7 opportunist hordes are what we seem to have ended up with.

I don't blame Fester's map, and indeed I applaud him for wanting to make it more interesting for the strat guys. The difficulty is in working around the hordes of people who engage in gameplay based on numerical supremacy and/or opportunism.

I've just read some old laments about gameplay. This thread by Hazed makes intersting reading 6 months down the line. The somewhat lamentable gameplay being discussed within could only be made worse by moving the fields closer together, which is why I was always against it.

Rutilant · « **Reply #42 on:** November 18, 2003, 06:12:57 AM »

But.. butbut.. lazs said it would work.. that means it will.. right?

Jackal1 · « **Reply #43 on:** November 18, 2003, 07:08:29 AM »

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Originally posted by Rutilant
But.. butbut.. lazs said it would work.. that means it will.. right?

Absolutely! No doubt about it...........and Britney aint knockin boots and Madonna don`t fool around.

mars01 · « **Reply #44 on:** November 18, 2003, 08:59:26 AM »

Yeah because there are only Niki and La7 hords on Fester map.

The LA7 and Niki are very effective planes on any map. Quit crying about the planes. If your a good pilot you can fly and fight anything, if your not you can cry about it. God La7s and Nikis are easy kills.

The horde mentality is on every map. The team with the numbers is always going to come in hords. The team with the least amount of people will always be overwhelmed. The maps have very little to do with altering this fact.

The one thing some other maps do is reduce the ability to furball, while every other aspect of the game is kept in tact. Fester map is one of a few maps that has encompased all facets of the game.

Also, next time your on look to see how many people are furballing in the middle, then go to another city on the coast and pork it. lol