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Offline Urchin

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« on: December 21, 2003, 07:21:32 PM »
Add at least 14 dozen fuel bunkers to the fields.  And make it so they take 14,000 pounds to destroy.  You can leave it so they don't come up for 4 hours, or whatever ridiculous level it is set to know though.  After all, the morons who can't even get in a flakpansie to try to fight planes need to have some reward for all their "hard work".

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« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2003, 07:40:13 PM »
So you are flying again, Urchie? I notice a very slight increase in your whining. :D

Glad to hear it.

Carry on. :aok

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« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2003, 08:05:37 PM »
Double the number of fuel objects at the field..

 Place half of the fuel drums at field in armoured bunkers - 4k to kill

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« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2003, 08:23:20 PM »
i think you furballers are asking to much:rofl


i dont see anything wrong with making more fuel bunkers on bases


but 4k come on a bomber would almost dump its hole load on 1 fuel bunker
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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2003, 08:51:35 PM »
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but 4k come on a bomber would almost dump its hole load on 1 fuel bunker
What exactly is the problem with that?
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« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2003, 09:25:44 PM »
dont want your base porked,,guard it then.

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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2003, 03:31:34 AM »
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dont want your base porked,,guard it then.
I agree, but it has to be said that a diving kamikaze fuel porker is a difficult target to intercept once he's made it to the field to be porked. However, fuel porkage is a legitimate game feature, and I wouldn't want to see the terrain changed in order to mandate players to play a certain way. Hardening the fuel bunkers, and/or putting so much automatic ack around them that they can't be reached is not on. But by all means, add a few mannable acks around the fuel bunkers. That would mean that to counter the incoming porker would require the same manpower as the pork effort itself. But make it manned ack so that those fighter jocks have to do some dirty work of their own if they want to save their field. "Not wanting" to do it because it's "boring" or spoils their stats is not a valid excuse, and they would then only have themselves to blame if the porkers succeeded in their mission.

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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2003, 07:22:05 AM »
There is an object which basically a small group of fuel drums.........

These could be scatterred at odd  points all over the fields..... they are virtually invisible from the air and only just visible from the ground.

The only problem is that should they all be destroyed then the resultant smoke would kill frame rates locally.


I note AH2 fields have quite large fuel bunkers.........that seem to be representing the entrance to underground dumps.

Unfortunately the present AH2 fuel bunker arena setting is not very hard and the local fuel trucks are part and parcel of the same object as the fuel dump. Which leaves 3 or 4 fuel bunker objects on the largest of fields.
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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2003, 09:10:08 AM »
Beetle, its called "barcap"  :)

A single kamikazi can't knock out your fuel.  If a half a dozen hit your base when your not watching you deserve to have to fly with 25%.

Its called gameplay.

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« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2003, 09:10:43 AM »
defend, resupply, or whine.


small maps + short bases distances + 600plus players = no fuel.
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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2003, 10:56:21 AM »
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A single kamikazi can't knock out your fuel.  


No, but one plane/pilot can in two passes at a small field. Both Rude and Thunder made films for the last debate on this.

It's not the destruction; it's the incredible imbalance in the destruction/resupply equation.
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« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2003, 11:10:52 AM »
..yet we keep blaming the buffs.  I've flown all weekend, havent seen a bomber strike knock fuels.  I have seen many tiffy raids and such that focus entirely on it.

I think the hardening of fuel is completely laughable.  You want fuel tanks to be resilient to everything.  In real life, tanker trucks explode in collisions, hand grenades, etc...gentleman, they are SOFT targets.  Defend them or face the fact that they can be compromised.

Its amazing to me that no one quite "gets" that.

One thing Id like to see...more than one vehicle hangar.

Anyways, as usual, flame away

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« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2003, 11:16:18 AM »
Here's another thing that no one quite "gets".

It takes a very..... special....... person to hover over a field all night waiting for the high-alt fuel dive bomber that may or may not ever arrive.

I guess no one "gets" that some folks have more fun actually fighting than hovering over a field all night long.
 
Not to mention the near impossibility of stopping a jabo that's already in his dive from above the defender.

But hey, it's real easy to jabo from alt and real boring to hover all night in defense. Plus the destruction/resupply effort is seriously imbalanced, so that's good too. Makes for great gameplay.
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« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2003, 11:18:35 AM »
"Please, for the love of GOD! "

.....Stop the whining

Channel 1 or the BBS it's nonstop from you.

You're the new posterboy for the squelch.

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« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2003, 11:29:18 AM »
We have the same problem with CV suicide. One lone aircraft can kill a cv. Sure, he has to dive bomb in his lancaster, if he's as much a dweeb as most, but that's all it takes.

Point is, it's not just fuel. I've been watching Lancs suicide towns, fuel, ammo, hangars, cvs, and even strat factories. This happens so often, in fact, that Aces High is really Kamikazi Kid! It's also a sign of true dweebery. You don't have to suicide to get the stuff down. Any plane with rockets can pork a fields ammo or fuel without ever entering the ack, but the guys that suicide won't take the time to learn how. Point and click is much easier.:rofl