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Offline 2Slow

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« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2004, 03:25:43 PM »
Platform Comparison Results
You preferred the Democratic stance for 0 issues. Democratic Platform

You preferred the Green stance for 2 issues. Green Platform

You preferred the Libertarian stance for 2 issues. Libertarian Platform.

You preferred the Republican stance for 3 issues. Republican Platform.


I consider myself a Republican with common sense.  Least government is best government.
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« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2004, 03:30:13 PM »
not really a surprise here as the test is kinda slanted but good none the less




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« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2004, 03:35:12 PM »
Here are my answers w/ explanations.  I just sent this to my sister, so this is a convenient cut/paste:

Personal Issues
1. I think military service should be voluntary.
2. I don't think the Government should control the media.
3. I don't think the Government should be say what consenting adults can and cannot do behind closed doors.
4. I think that the war on drugs is a mistake and hurts more people then it helps.
5. I don't have a strong opinion on the subject or borders and people crossing them easier.  I can see pros and cons for both arguments.

Economy
6. I think that government subsidies are a mistake.  A business should never be paid to NOT grow or build something, that's what subsidies do.
7. Using tariffs to slow trade and create a market beneficial for local businesses is counterintuitive.  A business should succeed or fail on its own merits.
8. I used to be medium on minimum wage laws, but I think that market forces would force businesses to adopt pay structures that are reflective of the actual demand and skill needed to do a job.  
9. I can go either Maybe or No on 'End taxes.  Pay for services with user fees.'  It works for some things (like gas taxes paying for roads) and doesn't work for others (people without kids complain about paying for public schools).
10. I do think that foreign aid should be privately funded.  If it was, then I suspect the Isreal/Palestine issue would have already been resolved.  The US has funded Isreal (who I sympathize with) exclusively (which I disagree with) to detriment.  If the government set it up so organizations could have tax benefits for organizing and dispering foreign aid, I think private industry would see profit in funding that because they benefit.  A vacuum would be filled by different organizations representing different groups, so our foreign aid would potentially benefit all foreign groups, not just those that currently have the ear of our government.
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« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2004, 03:36:24 PM »
Using the second link I came out on the chart as a centerist.
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« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2004, 03:36:52 PM »
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Every day millions of adult Americans agree to make love. There is no justification for throwing them in jail. These are peaceful voluntary agreements between consenting adults. A tiny fraction of these involve money.

Criminal penalties do not stop prostitution. They just create real problems. One study showed it costs taxpayers two thousand dollars every time a prostitute is arrested. Let's respect people's right to control their own bodies.

Decriminalize sex, and let it be a private affair.


http://www.theadvocates.org/library/libertarian-faq.html#Lib.FAQ.6a

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« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2004, 04:17:48 PM »
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Libertarian --> No government control over their lives whatsoever.
Republican --> Only as much government control as needed.
Moderate -->  In the middle.
Democrat --> Want a large amount of goverment control.
Communist (another term, forgot) --> Want complete governmental control.


That's an easy way to look at it.  How the other topics surfaced and stemmed is a completely different subject.


Republican, and Democrat could be the same when it comes to govt. control.

Both advocate legal restraints on alternative view points, ie. gun control...abortion.

The amount is completely subjective to whether that "control" inhibits their own personal wants.

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« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2004, 04:22:38 PM »
Miko is an avowed Libber, and as such, I draw the conclusion that they are a party of pissers and moaners, those who spend all their time and efforts to run down and condem our country.

Probably be best to avoid them like a syphlatic old hooker.


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« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2004, 04:23:39 PM »
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Seriously....what is a libertarion?  I'm kinda curious cause I'm fed up with the republicans and hate the librals.  If possible keep the replys to a serious and constructive.


Ask a serious question and you'll get a serious answer.
You need to put some scope on what you're looking for.

there was a gay liberation... a woman's liberation...

These were individuals who were persecuted for who they were, oppressed, shamed, and shut out from main stream society...

They fought back through the court system, public education, peaceful demonstration, and social reform... in order to change the moreys of conventional wisdom.

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« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2004, 04:33:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Dago
Miko is an avowed Libber, and as such, I draw the conclusion that they are a party of pissers and moaners, those who spend all their time and efforts to run down and condem our country.

Probably be best to avoid them like a syphlatic old hooker.


dago


Fair enough but after checking their website I find that alot of their goals and beleifs match that of mine.  I am for:
smaller govt
less gun control
Better Economy
less wealthfare
end to foriegn aid
less taxes

alot of these arent the wacked out hippie ideas that some on this board have described.  I think the idea of more than a 2 party system is just too shocking for some to beleive in.

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« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2004, 04:37:18 PM »
Gunslinger: Fair enough but after checking their website I find that alot of their goals and beleifs match that of mine...

 Be prepared to listen to a lot of crap of what a bad person you are for not supporting someone's oppressive and redstributive inclinations.

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« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2004, 04:45:42 PM »
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Originally posted by Dago
Miko is an avowed Libber, and as such, I draw the conclusion that they are a party of pissers and moaners, those who spend all their time and efforts to run down and condem our country.

Probably be best to avoid them like a syphlatic old hooker.


dago


What a wonderfully open minded view!  Off in Dago land, I guess everyone fits into one of two molds: Democrat or Republican.  Any third party is un-american, because, well, the Democratic and Republican parties were the only ones laid out in the Constitution!

That was sarcasm, in case you missed it.  Try not to let your personal feelings get in the way of your ability to think.

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« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2004, 06:06:10 PM »
possible sig material coming up:


Screw the republicans and democrats.  They both suck! I had an epiphany I am now a libertarion.  But not a miko libertarion I still think there's hope!

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« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2004, 06:16:18 PM »
I thought they organized books. ;)
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« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2004, 06:17:32 PM »
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I thought they organized books. ;)


LOL Ya beat me to it. :)

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« Reply #29 on: January 26, 2004, 07:09:10 PM »
Tarmac,

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That was sarcasm, in case you missed it



I sure hope the whooshing sound didnt make you look up.

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