Author Topic: John Kerry v. John Kerry (Read 1712 times)

Westy · « **Reply #45 on:** January 28, 2004, 02:29:31 PM »

IMO there's plenty of proof there. IT's easier than connecting the dots. But waving it all off as eronious kept military records is a reach to say the least. I imagine the truth is what you want to believe McGroin. Bush has had ample opportuntiy to answer the accusations and doesn't.
I for one do not like Bush for his shallow character. I don't know who I am voting for but it won't be him even if he tries to dress himself up with credibility and depth via Guilliani. I don't doubt the accusations that he was awol for a year doing political work in another state. And IMO the charade just gets worse when the lying sack insinuates he was eager and able for Vietnam combat duty but his request (which no one has a copy of) was so unfortunateyl turned down as he failed his flight physical. Why? Because his unit never saw him for over a year.

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #46 on:** January 28, 2004, 02:30:13 PM »

Ping, if the politicians had not been involved, the war would have been over very quickly. The US would have bombed the snot out of the North and made a massive invasion. Game Over.
Instead they dicked around fighting a limited war, and wasted time, money, and human lives.
Kieran makes a good point about the threat of WWIII, and this was certainly a factor for the politicians, but the increasing public resistance to the war was a bigger factor IMHO. The number one goal of any US politician is to get re-elected. Everything else follows from that.

Eagler · « **Reply #47 on:** January 28, 2004, 02:31:07 PM »

medals and all - he's too weak to lead this nation at this time & the majority knows it...

Ping · « **Reply #48 on:** January 28, 2004, 02:31:24 PM »

I understand that, but I thought that the politicians were demanding hands on from day one.

Ping · « **Reply #49 on:** January 28, 2004, 02:32:56 PM »

Eagler, You are just not you without the GWB avatar

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #50 on:** January 28, 2004, 02:34:18 PM »

Westy, try as you might, there is nothing in there about GWB being AWOL. Obviously there is some on usual stuff in the records, but the phrase AWOL or "deserter" or "desertion" does not appear. The USAF made their final verdict on his service and that was an Honorable Discharge. If he did all these things wrong (as you conclude from inadequate documentation), would that not have precluded an Honorable Discharge?

In any case, it's irrelevant. The issue here is not what Kerry (or Dubya) did in the service. It's what Kerry did AFTER his discharge.

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #51 on:** January 28, 2004, 02:36:36 PM »

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Originally posted by Ping
I understand that, but I thought that the politicians were demanding hands on from day one.

I agree, it was a ****up before the protests started happening. But the protests didn't help things, just made it worse for our guys. Easymo has posted a bunch on this over on AGW, do a search over there for his posts in Kerry threads. Easymo was out there in the **** at the time, I was just a zygote, so I defer to him on this topic.

yowser · « **Reply #52 on:** January 28, 2004, 02:38:07 PM »

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Originally posted by Kieran
I can bet you $10 on this one- there won't be a single Republican in the re-elect Bush campaign that would be stupid enough to try to impugn Kerry on his war record.

Seems there are some Repubs on this BBS that ARE indeed that stupid.

yowser

SOB · « **Reply #53 on:** January 28, 2004, 02:39:02 PM »

LOL, Kerry was the driving force that lost the war, and Bush wasn't missing for a year because he got an honorable discharge. Sometimes you scare me, Funked.

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #54 on:** January 28, 2004, 02:40:28 PM »

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Originally posted by SOB
Sometimes you scare me, Funked.

It's normal for the weak-minded to be intimidated by greater intellect. It's like in sci-fi movies when really smart aliens invade the earth. I can really empathize with my homey Miko right now.

SOB · « **Reply #55 on:** January 28, 2004, 02:49:19 PM »

LOL, you are my alien hero, Funkynuts!

Gunslinger · « **Reply #56 on:** January 28, 2004, 02:50:10 PM »

I just have a hard time when I hear the term "war hero" when I've also read/heard that he walked happily side by side with people that spit on returning war heros and referred to them as "baby killers" Yes he served and thats awsome. But to come home and disrespect his own service in the fasion that he did....that's another story.

Westy · « **Reply #57 on:** January 28, 2004, 02:50:56 PM »

You've got to be kidding. With Bush's connections (his he was making as well as "Dad's") there was no way in hell he was getting out with anything less than an honorable discharge.

As for what this topic was originally about? I see nothing wrong with what Kerry did. Sure he kept his medals while he tossed his ribbons along with the medals several vets gave to him for use in a righteous and very symbolic act of protest. That Kerry kept his medals is of no consequence to me. It's small peanuts compared to Bush's repertoire of fugg ups.

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #58 on:** January 28, 2004, 02:54:02 PM »

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Originally posted by SOB
LOL, you are my alien hero, Funkynuts!

If you are nice to me I will help you study for the GED.

I AM SO SMRT!!!
S-M-R-T!!!
S-M-R-T!!!
S-M-R-T!!!
DOH!!!

Ping · « **Reply #59 on:** January 28, 2004, 02:54:08 PM »

This is going to be an Interesting election year.

Gets out the jiffy pop.