Author Topic: What rights have we lost as U.S. citizens? (Read 5757 times)

Martlet · « **Reply #45 on:** March 15, 2004, 06:20:54 PM »

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Originally posted by Westy
You continually ignore the answers given Martlet. Have every time the question has bee answered over the past year. It's appears to be some kind of silly, iids game you keep playing here.

You keep talking. How about you just decisively answer the question, thus putting it all to rest?

Westy · « **Reply #46 on:** March 15, 2004, 06:25:20 PM »

It has been several times. You ignore the replies or brush them aside with an irrelevent answer. You'd do so even if the answer was taped to the tip of your nose. So instead how about you decisively stop playing your game?

Martlet · « **Reply #47 on:** March 15, 2004, 06:26:43 PM »

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Originally posted by Westy
It has been several times. You ignore the replies or brush them aside with an irrelevent answer. You'd do so even if the answer was taped to the tip of your nose. So instead how about you decisively stop playing your game?

Just as I thought.

Now, lets try this again.

Since Westy obviously hasn't lost any rights, anyone else care to answer?

Westy · « **Reply #48 on:** March 15, 2004, 06:29:12 PM »

This may sound bad but it's perhaps the only way for the blind "to see." I honestly hope an error is made in some case and you're the unlucky recipient of what occurs. I'd love to hear your tune afterwards.

Martlet · « **Reply #49 on:** March 15, 2004, 06:32:56 PM »

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Originally posted by Westy
This may sound bad but it's perhaps the only way for the blind "to see." I honestly hope an error is made in some case and you're the unlucky recipient of what occurs. I'd love to hear your tune afterwards.

Sound bad? Heck, it doesn't even make sense.

Anyway, thanks for playing! If you think of a right you've lost, come back and share it with us.

Westy · « **Reply #50 on:** March 15, 2004, 06:37:37 PM »

I'm beyond sharing squat with you. Even if Bush himself told you your posts would remain the same -pure drivel.

Martlet · « **Reply #51 on:** March 15, 2004, 06:38:43 PM »

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Originally posted by Westy
I'm beyond sharing squat with you. Even if Bush himself told you your posts would remain the same -pure drivel.

Thanks for contributing!

When you think of one, be sure to let me know!

Stoned Gecko · « **Reply #52 on:** March 15, 2004, 06:39:18 PM »

I think a better title for the thread would be "what rights we stand to lose". I think most of the discussion up to this point is what might happen as a result of current laws.

muckmaw · « **Reply #53 on:** March 15, 2004, 06:45:14 PM »

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Originally posted by Martlet
Thanks for contributing!

When you think of one, be sure to let me know!

Pfffffftt!!!

AHAHAHHAAHA!!!!!

You owe me one monitor and one cup of coffee martlet.

hawker238 · « **Reply #54 on:** March 15, 2004, 06:45:35 PM »

Martlet, I can agree that no rights have been widely infringed upon.

Can you at least agree that the government is making moves to lessen them?

Thrawn · « **Reply #55 on:** March 15, 2004, 06:50:26 PM »

For about three years (during most of which there have been many posts where people stated "We haven't lost any rights") the citizens of the US lost their right to habeas corpus.

It became a privledge that was extended at the pleasure of the Excutive Branch of your government.

Luckily, not to long ago you Surpreme Court informed the President that he infact didn't have the power to remove that right.

hawker238 · « **Reply #56 on:** March 15, 2004, 06:54:37 PM »

I stand corrected.

Martlet · « **Reply #57 on:** March 15, 2004, 06:54:55 PM »

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Originally posted by hawker238
Martlet, I can agree that no rights have been widely infringed upon.

Can you at least agree that the government is making moves to lessen them?

No, not at all. That's a conspiracy theory. I WILL agree, though, that it's good to have a few members of the tin foil hat brigade around. They do look for things, and are quick to squawk. Granted, 9 times out of 10 it's just paranioa, but they do catch that 1.

I think the government has the POTENTIAL to take away our rights, but that is always the case. I just have faith in the system. The people in the government are just that. People. People like you and I. Sure, once they move up into big government a percentage is corrupted, but even those folks are beholden to the lower levels.

While I don't trust many individual members of gov't, I trust the system. I put my faith in the people I elect, then keep a sharp eye on them.

hawker238 · « **Reply #58 on:** March 15, 2004, 07:04:20 PM »

Do you see anything wrong with a suspension of Habeus Corpus?

Martlet · « **Reply #59 on:** March 15, 2004, 07:07:45 PM »

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Originally posted by hawker238
Do you see anything wrong with a suspension of Habeus Corpus?

In my opinion, we haven't had one. The SC obviously believes differently, and since they've ruled as such it hasn't occured.

As I said, the system works.