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Offline CyranoAH

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« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2004, 05:44:20 AM »
The man was as old as mahoma anyway... they just turned a grumpy ol' bastard into a martyr.

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« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2004, 06:17:13 AM »
Stupid move by Israel, violence has not worked in the last 15 years, I see no reason why it should start working now.
The only result will be an increase in violence.
Which is the opposite of what they want, I think. :confused:

Israel as been stuck in a viscious circle of violence for many years because both sides refuse to compromise.
This war is not just going on because of the palestinians.
Israel as been killing Palestinians for years and yet the terrorism as not gone down.  Weird is it not?
Killing someone's father and putting another family in the gutter.
People who have nothing are easier to convince then those who have hope for the future.
People like that become suicide bombers.
I wish more people tried to see things from their view instead of demonizing them like idiots.

If you trully want to stop the violence in Israel then give the Palestinians hope.
HOPE IS A POWERFULL THING THEY SAY.

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« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2004, 06:27:33 AM »
when terrorists are called "spiritual" and "political" leaders

Israel is damned if they do and damned if they don't - so they did

If OBL came out of the hills proclaiming to be a "spiritual" and "political" leader, you think the US would not kill him at 1st chance? what is the difference, and please don't bring the murderers wheel chair into it as AP is doing .. I wonder why they allowed him to breathe as long as they did ..
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« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2004, 06:29:08 AM »
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Stupid move by Israel, violence has not worked in the last 15 years, I see no reason why it should start working now.


Really?  What world are you living in?


Punishing terrorists and **THE FAMILIES OF TERRORISTS** has been working.  There has been a significant decrease in terrorist attacks from the 90's.
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« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2004, 06:36:40 AM »
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Israel is damned if they do and damned if they don't - so they did


I completly disagree here.

If they had sent troops to arrest him and had judged him I would be 100% behind Israel.

But Israel continues to do things through violence.
Their methods are just as brutal as their ennemies'.
Why should I support a contry that uses such means?

Remember the bombing of Jenine?
Was anyone accussed of war crimes for it?
Nope, why is it a war crime for Serbs to kill people in Kosovo and not when Israel murders Palestinians civillians?
If you were a Palestinians and saw that on TV do you think you would consider that fair?
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« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2004, 07:19:37 AM »
I think there will be alot more voilence and  killing in israel now..

Hope im proven wrong but this was a bad thing imo.

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« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2004, 07:51:34 AM »
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Punishing terrorists and **THE FAMILIES OF TERRORISTS** has been working. There has been a significant decrease in terrorist attacks from the 90's.


I'd re-check your sources if I was you. The conflict has escalated over the last few years.

Year; # of Israelis killed in terror attacks
1978: 12
1979: 14
1980: 10
1981: 5
1982: 2
1983: 6
1984: 7
1985: 14
1986: 7
1987: 5
1988: 14
1989: 32
1990: 23
1991: 26
1992: 39

2000: 41
2001: 201
2002: 384
2003: 174

Yes, there really has been a decrease in the 1990s...
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« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2004, 08:03:10 AM »
This guy was outspoken in the support of blowing up Israeli school children at bus stops.  I have about as much compassion for this guy as some of the posters in this thread that think taking out a terrorist is a bad thing.

Yassin's error was not surrounding himself with many women and children as he normally did in public to protect himself.  He was vulnerable with only a handful of body guards and Israel acted upon the opportunity to send a clear message.

One thing consistent about terrorists, they'll always hide behind women and children, whether it be villagers in the remote mountains of Pakistan, or the city streets of the Gaza Strip.
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« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2004, 08:13:24 AM »
Killing a terrorist is not a bad thing. Killing women and children along the way is the issue.
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« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2004, 08:16:05 AM »
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Killing a terrorist is not a bad thing. Killing women and children along the way is the issue.


"One thing consistent about terrorists, they'll always hide behind women and children, whether it be villagers in the remote mountains of Pakistan, or the city streets of the Gaza Strip.
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« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2004, 08:21:23 AM »
"Killing a terrorist is not a bad thing. Killing women and children along the way is the issue."
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« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2004, 08:22:18 AM »
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If you trully want to stop the violence in Israel then give the Palestinians hope.
HOPE IS A POWERFULL THING THEY SAY.


Hamas will likely settle for nothing less than the complete removal or elimination of Israel from "Palestine", an area they like to define as that between the Mediterranean and the Jordan river. I think that is a hope that Israel would prefer NOT to encourage.
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« Reply #27 on: March 22, 2004, 08:23:36 AM »
If Bin Laden killed Bush, would USA stop the hunt for Al Quaida? or would USA continue its hunt even harder than now?

And Bush is not even a spritual leader so imagine what the killing of Yassin will do for Israel.

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« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2004, 08:27:57 AM »
No doubt he's a martyr Nilsen, but as mentioned, the violence was going on last week (Suicide bombers), and the violence will continue.  There is no negotiation with Radical Islamic Fundamentalists.  You're welcome to try though if you think you can do a better job than many heads of states in the past as well as the UN.

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« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2004, 08:31:03 AM »
I believe that every country ought to have a copy of "the big book of terrorists" ...  the book would be filled with pictures and the pictures would get a big red X through em as these guys were eliminated.   The book would also have pictures of the people who funded the terrorists.... As their pictures were crossed out it would become far less attractive for little rich boys to play bad boy.

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