Author Topic: Appeasement has the expected result (Read 2070 times)

Nash · « **Reply #45 on:** April 07, 2004, 12:47:26 AM »

No worries. Happens all the time.

(bamboozlement, heemotizement)

Why ya think I have it?

Sandman · « **Reply #46 on:** April 07, 2004, 12:49:21 AM »

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Originally posted by Nash
No worries. Happens all the time.

(bamboozlement, heemotizement)

Why ya think I have it?

I wonder if adding guns and cars would increase the effect?

Nash · « **Reply #47 on:** April 07, 2004, 12:58:51 AM »

Funny you should mention that.

Did some testing using just that sort of thing. Didn't get a response.

Then I got many emails from businesses from all over the country. I'll use Boeing's as an example. Theirs said, simply, "cut it out".

Hortlund · « **Reply #48 on:** April 07, 2004, 01:06:00 AM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn
Not only will the stay. Spain is doubling the number of soldiers in Afghantistan.

I have mentioned this on this BBS before. But apparently some of our US friends have chosen to ignore this because then they couldn't lie about Spanish "appeasement".

Do the numbers. So they double in Afghanistan, from 100-something to 200-something, meanwhile they pull back 1000-something from Iraq.

The Spaniards are dropping the ball, I would expect nothing else from a pacifist socialist government. shreck em.

Hortlund · « **Reply #49 on:** April 07, 2004, 01:06:36 AM »

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Originally posted by Nash

Backpeddaling? Was it real or "percieved"?

Real.

Nash · « **Reply #50 on:** April 07, 2004, 01:11:40 AM »

Ooh... "You heard me for I have spoken".

Compelling ah... argument there Hortz.

Or do you think your ideas need only be backed up by the mere presence of your... arrogance?

Throw us a bone, sir.

LAWCobra · « **Reply #51 on:** April 07, 2004, 01:14:14 AM »

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Originally posted by Hortlund
I would expect nothing else from a pacifist socialist government. shreck em.

LOL this coming form a dude from sweden LOL:rofl

Hortlund · « **Reply #52 on:** April 07, 2004, 01:14:48 AM »

Which one did you have in mind? The numbers in Afghanistan or the folding of the Spaniards?

Hortlund · « **Reply #53 on:** April 07, 2004, 01:15:38 AM »

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Originally posted by LAWCobra
LOL this coming form a dude from sweden LOL:rofl

This coming from a guy who could probably not point out Sweden on a map...

Nash · « **Reply #54 on:** April 07, 2004, 01:16:33 AM »

I'm tempted to say "the folding of the Spaniards" but you know better than me that which I should hear first.

You tease me.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #55 on:** April 07, 2004, 01:18:40 AM »

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Originally posted by Nash
Bull....

It was the current government's platform to yank Spain's troops from Iraq. Well before the bomb. Well before the troops even arrived, actually.

Now because of the bombing, you think think the government's policy should change on account of it. If that were to happen, then the bombing would have achieved a policy change. Not the other way around.

No it just happends that there is evidence the Spanish people voted in that party in responbse to the terror attacks when before that party was not going to win.

But we have all had this argument before, havent we? I pretty much know what you will say next and you likewise - so whats the point?

Anyway the terrorists are happy that the new govt is in power and that they can say they caused it and cause the iraq withdrawal. They will ask for more, in the unique way they ask for things...

Nash · « **Reply #56 on:** April 07, 2004, 01:24:10 AM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
No it just happends that there is evidence the Spanish people voted in that party in responbse to the terror attacks when before that party was not going to win.

So you're saying it was the people's response to the attacks and ruling out that it was the former government's response to the attacks?

Edumacate me on this point, will ya?

Unlike you, I have no idea what yer gonna say next.

-tronski- · « **Reply #57 on:** April 07, 2004, 01:33:23 AM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Tronski the spanish terrorists clearly said the bombing was intended to break spain from the US coalition, and thats exatly what they got. Clear link. So whether you think iraq is terror war related is pointless, the terrorists sure do and they will consider this a great victory - a victory we can yet deny them if Spain decides to stay in Iraq.

You say that the recent high speed train bombing attempt is proof that Spain did not give in to the terrorists and did not appease them... Are we suppose to think that you also think hitlers invasion of poland is proof that he was not appeased and encouraged by the 1938 munich debacle where france anmd UK gave into his demands for the sudetenland under direct threat of war?

Well it seems we are (not for this first time) looking at the same things at completely different viewpoints.

The fact is, the terror campaign is going to continue in spain, and the spanish are going to fight that campaign. The spanish are also not going to leave afghanistan.

If spain was easily frightened there would be a basque state in existance there since the late 60's.

Tronsky

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #58 on:** April 07, 2004, 01:35:07 AM »

Both are possible. But the outcome was clear, they voted for the prty they felt would make the terror go away. Unfortunately it was from a point of view of appeasement. Give terrorists what they want and asked for - a pullot of iraq. And I must be clear on this, i'm not saying this genearally that terrorists want soain to be out of iraq. There was a specific plan outlined on al qaeda websaites to that end to get spain out of iraq and also an al qaeda operastive was detained earler in year and promised bloodshed in the very same train station (atocha) that took worst of attack.

Nash · « **Reply #59 on:** April 07, 2004, 01:35:41 AM »

Btw, Grun....

When, on the second of November, George Bush is voted out of office, will you call this appeasement? Will yours be a nation of appeasers also? Will you move to France in disgust?