Author Topic: So that's what Islam is to these guys, eh..  (Read 6499 times)

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« Reply #150 on: May 12, 2004, 02:45:31 PM »
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Hizbollah Slams Beheading of American as Un-Islamic
BEIRUT (Reuters) - Lebanon's Hizbollah guerrilla group condemned Wednesday the beheading of an American hostage by Iraqi militants as an ugly crime that flouted the tenets of Islam.
"Hizbollah condemns this horrible act that has done very great harm to Islam and Muslims by this group that claims affiliation to the religion of mercy, compassion and humane principles," the Shi'ite Muslim group said in a statement.

An Islamist Web site Tuesday carried a video clip of the execution of the man who identified himself as Nick Berg, with a statement saying a group linked to al Qaeda did it in revenge for the abuse of Iraqis by U.S. troops.

Hizbollah said Berg's killing had diverted the world's gaze from an escalating furor over the abuse of Iraqi prisoners by occupation soldiers.

"The timing of this act that overshadowed the scandal over the abuse of Iraqi prisoners in occupation forces prisons is suspect timing that aims to serve the American administration and occupation forces in Iraq and present excuses and pretexts for their inhumane practices against Iraqi detainees."

The Syrian-backed group which the United States deems "terrorist" said the executors' behavior was closer to "the Pentagon school -- the school of killing and occupation and crimes and torture and immoral practices that were exposed by the great scandal in occupation prisons."

Washington blames Hizbollah, whose attacks forced Israeli troops to withdraw from south Lebanon in 2000 after a 22-year occupation, for 1980s suicide bombings against its embassy and Marines barracks and the abduction of Westerners in Beirut



Something about this statement seems very surreal......  :confused:

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« Reply #151 on: May 12, 2004, 02:46:06 PM »
MT, you know that we can not tolerate people acting, talking and living differently. That would be a Non-Conservative idea. Please report for political re-education.
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« Reply #152 on: May 12, 2004, 02:48:25 PM »
Perhaps the true problem is that the mentality of the people who would do such atrocities as hacking a head off of a man is understood all too well.
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« Reply #153 on: May 12, 2004, 02:49:47 PM »
Well, as I said. I'm a patient man. I suspect, however, that one will require unending patience in this case.
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« Reply #154 on: May 12, 2004, 02:52:58 PM »
Mr. Berg's death at the hands of barbarians is, in the grander scheme of things, a very minor event.  With respect to his family and friends who I am sure are suffering through an unbelievable tragedy, his is, simply put, a casualty of war.

But the question that keeps popping into my mind is this:  Where your primary enemy has no concern for his casualties, has the tacit support of the local population, and is willing to commit crimes which no one in the Western world could ever imagine, do you actually think that this "war" can ever be won?

The same old story.  All the battles will be won, but the war will be lost (or at least not won).  Frankly, my view is that no U.S. Administration has ever understood their enemy when it comes to terrorists, and they still don't understand their enemy.  For whatever reason the United States still doesn't understand that you cannot defeat an enemy that so willingly takes the lives of others while at the same time is so willing to give their own lives.

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« Reply #155 on: May 12, 2004, 02:57:23 PM »
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 As if you can be a judge of tolerance?

You are just as bad as the righties here, you just happend to be left.

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« Reply #156 on: May 12, 2004, 02:58:31 PM »
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 Were did you get the idea that no one wants to learn about whats going on with these guys? I always though the best way to beat someone was to get in their head?

Did I miss a thread?

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« Reply #157 on: May 12, 2004, 02:59:40 PM »
Didn't look like "hacking" to me looked more like they SAWED his head off
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« Reply #158 on: May 12, 2004, 03:08:30 PM »
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MT
 Were did you get the idea that no one wants to learn about whats going on with these guys? I always though the best way to beat someone was to get in their head?

Did I miss a thread?


Well ... sort of. I've been Skuzzedited. I started a new thread but Skuzzy decided it belonged here I guess. I was acually commenting on this thread AND the one GRUN started about Nash.

Ahh well. It's Skuzzy's board.

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« Reply #159 on: May 12, 2004, 03:11:09 PM »
:( :mad:

Hard to find words.

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« Reply #160 on: May 12, 2004, 03:13:08 PM »
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you cannot defeat an enemy that so willingly takes the lives of others while at the same time is so willing to give their own lives.


the animals that beheaded that american wore masks.....doesn't look to me that they were willingly giving their owns lives.


Personaly,  I think that the only victory we can achieve in Iraq will be when we pull out, leaving a government in place.  After that, it's not our responsiblity.  The Iraqis HAVE to take ownership of thier own country and be responsible for how it turns out.  If it falls to hell again and they allow another tyrant to brutalize them (most likely), than that's their lot in life until the country as a whole rises up and takes care of thier own business.

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« Reply #161 on: May 12, 2004, 03:13:43 PM »
Well that was confusing as all heck!

lol I thought your thread got deleted!

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« Reply #162 on: May 12, 2004, 03:17:06 PM »
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However the bizzare defense and marginalization of thes ascts by some on the left is even more stunning....



The "Left" hasnt marginalized this tragic murder. You are beginning to sound like a Rush puppet.

Now we do agree that the silence from the leaders and moderates in that part of the world is deafening.

Im wondering if there really is a sizable moderate population in Araby at all.
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« Reply #163 on: May 12, 2004, 03:32:29 PM »
" I suspect, however, that one will require unending patience in this case."

 If they don't I'll apologize.  But even Bush didn't make a statement till this afternoon about Berg.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/05/20040512-2.html

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« Reply #164 on: May 12, 2004, 03:43:58 PM »
Like I said, I'm patient.

Like you, I'm still waiting on the condemnation of the Pearl murder.
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!