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Offline Bodhi

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« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2004, 08:03:49 PM »
The UN is like most city councils... long on words, loaded with corruption, and short on action...

The UN is worthless other than a vocal point for the EU and 3rd world tyrants and petty dictatorships.
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« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2004, 08:39:49 PM »
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Can't complain about a club that you don't pay your dues to.


Maybe if we stopped funding all that "UN" food and military aid, we could afford to pay our "dues"
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« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2004, 08:44:26 PM »
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Interesting considering that the UN was a US idea and a key part of US foreign policy during and immediatelly after the war.


You have an interesting point. I guess it's an example of an idea that just didn't quite pan out.
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« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2004, 08:45:12 PM »
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US out from UN ?

Sounds good; you've been fkcing with UN long enough  :)

http://www.krysstal.com/democracy_whyusa03.html


Glad to know we see eye to eye.
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« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2004, 08:47:15 PM »
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Can't complain about a club that you don't pay your dues to.


No complaints here personally...just don't really see the "point" of continued participation.
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« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2004, 08:47:41 PM »
How much does the UN currently owe the US in reimbursement of expenses for peacekeeping operations?
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« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2004, 09:17:50 PM »
The first thing that comes to my mind when I hear the words "United Nations" is...    

                                                       FOOD FIGHT....   :rofl
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« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2004, 09:29:19 PM »
Who paid for the UN action in the first Gulf war? Did all member states cover that bill or did they just approve of the action.
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« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2004, 10:23:43 PM »
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Approve action. GW1 was not a UN peacekeeping mission.


That's my point....they approve, yet do nothing as usual. They sit on the sidelines. Why would they not offer troops and money? They write the resolutions, the US does the work.
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« Reply #24 on: June 02, 2004, 10:39:22 PM »
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Your point is showing off your ignorance. The US and the other coalition members asked the UN to approve the liberation of Kuwait by drafting a resolution. The resolution was passed and the coalition was given a UN mandate to do the job they asked to be allowed to do. It has nothing to do with UN funding or peacekeeping operations, which are UN funded. If you ask your boss if you can run down to the store and he approves, his going to be mighty pissed if you also demand he pay for it.


LOL

So the UN would have done nothing about Iraq invading Kuwait unless the US asked them to? What good is the UN? What UN action did the UN pull off on it's own that helped anyone?

The UN is a bag of hot air. They wrote resolutions demanding Iraq pull out of Kuwait, yet what did they do to actually make Iraq pull out of Kuwait?

The UN also wrote some resolutions requiring Iraq to comply with all the previos UN resolutions, yet what did the UN do to enforce them?

I'm glad I live in a country that does not rely on the UN for it's freedom.
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« Reply #25 on: June 02, 2004, 11:05:29 PM »
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Showing your ignorance again. Why is it so difficult for some people to understand that the UN is not a separate entity? The US is a part of the UN and a part of the UN's will and body. A rather large part actually. Every UN resolution demanding Iraq withdraw from Kuwait was drafted or supported by the US in the UNSC. The UN is and does what its member nations want ... or rather can agree on, which is the point: Not to do anything unless most member nations agree on it. I'm not expecting you to agree with this or even understand it, but there it is.


So why does the UN not help pay for the first Gulf war? You tried to make a point that the US owes the UN "dues" and even argue that the UN is not a seperate entity, but you will not explain why the UN does not help pay the costs of Gulf War One. Which is it?
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« Reply #26 on: June 02, 2004, 11:08:48 PM »
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They write the resolutions, the US does the work.


 Amen.The UN now as it stands talks the talk and the US walks the walk.Its been that way for some time.If the world waited on the UN for anything more than a resolution,The issue would be over before they made a decision.
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« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2004, 11:16:11 PM »
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You have an interesting point. I guess it's an example of an idea that just didn't quite pan out.



Hmmm... Gulf War 1 was a perfect example of how it does pan out. FWIW, the current occupation of Iraq is another.
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« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2004, 11:32:04 PM »
Bodhi.your a traitor at heart anyway.What do you care?
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« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2004, 11:32:49 PM »
JK:D
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