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« Reply #75 on: July 08, 2004, 12:26:28 AM »
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Did he just compare a foreskin to a fetus?


must be a big foreskin

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« Reply #76 on: July 08, 2004, 12:28:24 AM »
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must be a big foreskin


maybe we should call it a fiveskin?

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« Reply #77 on: July 08, 2004, 12:28:40 AM »
But then, I didn't ask if it was legal, I was soliciting opinions on whether or not folks feel it SHOULD be legal.  And I didn't define OK as legal.  I defined it as "should it be legal", in the context of my post.
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« Reply #78 on: July 08, 2004, 12:29:54 AM »
...and if you're drunk, why the **** aren't you sharing?!
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« Reply #79 on: July 08, 2004, 12:30:14 AM »
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But then, I didn't ask if it was legal, I was soliciting opinions on whether or not folks feel it SHOULD be legal.  And I didn't define OK as legal.  I defined it as "should it be legal", in the context of my post.


Well that finally clears things up I guess.

I do not feel it is OK to kill any inocent human life.

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« Reply #80 on: July 08, 2004, 12:30:31 AM »
FORESKIN IS TEH MURDER!

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« Reply #81 on: July 08, 2004, 12:31:59 AM »
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Well that finally clears things up I guess.

I do not feel it is OK to kill any inocent human life.


who decides what 'innocent' is?

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« Reply #82 on: July 08, 2004, 12:33:32 AM »
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who decides what 'innocent' is?


well let's see..... a court maybe? Last I heard, no fetuses where able to commit crimes or stand trial even.

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« Reply #83 on: July 08, 2004, 12:36:02 AM »
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well let's see..... a court maybe? Last I heard, no fetuses where able to commit crimes or stand trial even.


mabye in Texas:lol

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« Reply #84 on: July 08, 2004, 12:39:14 AM »
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well let's see..... a court maybe? Last I heard, no fetuses where able to commit crimes or stand trial even.

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I do not feel it is OK to kill any inocent human life.



Life.... fetus.... life.... fetus...

Which brings me to an original question I don't think has ever been asked ever...

Is a fetus a life? When does life begin?

Oh noooooo!

(in the immortal words of Karaya) The wheels of the bus go round and round, round and round, round and round...

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« Reply #85 on: July 08, 2004, 12:39:44 AM »
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mabye in Texas:lol


I don't undertand what you mean. Can you clarify?

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« Reply #86 on: July 08, 2004, 12:42:05 AM »
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Life.... fetus.... life.... fetus...

Which brings me to an original question I don't think has ever been asked ever...

Is a fetus a life? When does life begin?

Oh noooooo!

(in the immortal words of Karaya) The wheels of the bus go round and round, round and round, round and round...


Nash, seems that y we better define it without the double standards. In most many states ( dont know exactly) you can be charged with murder for being responsible for the death of a fetus, other than abortion.

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« Reply #87 on: July 08, 2004, 12:46:48 AM »
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In most many states ( dont know exactly) you can be charged with murder for being responsible for the death of a fetus, other than abortion.


Okay I'm just gonna blurt this out without thinking it through (as is my style, man) but in that case, if a pregnant woman commits a murder can they drag they baby to jail when it comes out?

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« Reply #88 on: July 08, 2004, 12:48:53 AM »
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Okay I'm just gonna blurt this out without thinking it through (as is my style, man) but in that case, if a pregnant woman commits a murder can they drag they baby to jail when it comes out?


Again, how can a fetus be put on trial? What control does it have over the mother's action?

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« Reply #89 on: July 08, 2004, 12:52:16 AM »
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Then of course we have the double standard of murder being charged againt people who kill a womans fetus who would otherwise legally be elligible for abortion if the mother chose.


It's not a double standard. The womb belongs to the woman. She gets to decide if the fetus lives or dies. If she wants to have the baby and someone else kills it, they can be charged for murder (and rightly so, IMHO). If she wishes to terminate, it is within her rights (and none other) to do so.

I'm perfectly happy with leaving this decision up to the people that actually possess a womb (and then only their own).

Of course, this will no doubt bring on the whine, "What about the father?" Suck it up... life's hard, wear a helmet and find a woman that will honor your wishes as equally as her own.
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