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AKSeaWulfe

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« Reply #60 on: January 09, 2001, 12:25:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by Beurling:
HOW CAN THE 1C BE PERKED!

Well over 200 of them flew in ww2.

Where did you get that number from?  I think it may be just a tad high, but I'll check the Vought (and Goodyear if they even made -1C's) production run and see.    (Image removed from quote.)


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He pulled it out of where the sun don't shine. My source says exactly 200 F4U-1As were delivered as F4U-1Cs.
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« Reply #61 on: January 09, 2001, 12:37:00 PM »
Pyro, just 2 words   THANK YOU

I think the game will turn again from Quakeish behaviour to a more "rational" way. Personally I do not find the C-Hog extremely difficult both to avoid and kill in my Zeke. But It is a) Boring to have such a C-Hog infested Arena  b) Boring to have such a high percentage of Head-On only pilots. Dunno if the perk system as a whole, or in this particular case, will work, but I definitely want to give it a try.

As for the "I Quit" characters: Do it. I will when I'm fed up. As of today, I'm really hungry yet. But, please, do it for real. Save our time & yours, and besides yourselves, quit your whines and cheap threats. If you like the game, play. If you do not, quit. But please, be quiet. The rest of us are playing. We need concentration.  

Cheers,

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« Reply #62 on: January 09, 2001, 01:27:00 PM »
Pyro... CHEERS!

I owe ya a beer or two... or three or...

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« Reply #63 on: January 09, 2001, 01:33:00 PM »
 
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Pyro, just 2 words   THANK YOU

I think the game will turn again from Quakeish behaviour to a more "rational" way. Personally I do not find the C-Hog extremely difficult both to avoid and kill in my Zeke. But It is a) Boring to have such a C-Hog infested Arena  b) Boring to have such a high percentage of Head-On only pilots. Dunno if the perk system as a whole, or in this particular case, will work, but I definitely want to give it a try.

As for the "I Quit" characters: Do it. I will when I'm fed up. As of today, I'm really hungry yet. But, please, do it for real. Save our time & yours, and besides yourselves, quit your whines and cheap threats. If you like the game, play. If you do not, quit. But please, be quiet. The rest of us are playing. We need concentration.    

Cheers,

Pepe


Oh Please!!! this coming from some one who flies a paper airplane that turn on dime? I could almost put credit into this if you flew a stang a Fw190 a bf109 specially a p47 ... but a zeke. You probably hate anything big and blue ... or big and silver but exspecially big and blue.

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« Reply #64 on: January 09, 2001, 01:51:00 PM »
 
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Boring to have such a high percentage of Head-On only pilots

If you think perking ANY plane is going to prevent that, think again!

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« Reply #65 on: January 09, 2001, 02:11:00 PM »
I thought the original idea of perk points was to allow people to fly special planes. Not sure Chog classifies as being special, it is just popular. Prior to the release of 1.05, all the interview stuff I read refered to perks as a way to reward people, not as a way to balance the type of planes. I say let people fly whatever they want and save the perk idea for something special.

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« Reply #66 on: January 09, 2001, 03:16:00 PM »
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I thought the original idea of perk points was to allow people to fly special planes. Not sure Chog classifies as being special, it is just popular.

Define "special?"

There's likely no difference between "Special" planes and "Popular" planes, effectively.

"Special" planes are pretty much guaranteed to be popular.

The Tempest is a "special" plane. If it was added without perking it would end up being 50-75% of all land airfield fighter sorties, even worse than the CHog.

The Me 262 is "special". And without perking again I bet you'd see 50-75% of all land airfield sorties be Me 262s without perking.

It just so happened that the Chog was added well before perk points were implemented.

If Perk points had been put in, THEN a perked Chog added, I very seriously doubt whether anyone at all would have complained about how it should be unperked.

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« Reply #67 on: January 09, 2001, 04:30:00 PM »
This is from a news update from htc..


We don't have any perk planes going into 1.05, but we'll still have the system up and ready. It's been awhile since we've discussed the perk system so I'll describe the basics of it again. On the outside the perk system is a way for us to introduce some interesting but otherwise unbalancing planes on a limited basis but the benefits go deeper than that. Perk planes (and vehicles) would be things like Me 262s, Ta 152s, Tempests, B-29s, Ar 234s, Tiger IIs, etc. These are interesting rides but would be very unbalancing if they were available on an unlimited basis. So there won't be unlimited availability but they'll be available as bonuses or perks every so often.


From this I guess the Chog (or any other plane that is popular) is considered very unbalancing). I don't have a problem with perking Chog or any other plane. One question would be does that mean if Chog is unpopular after it is perked it will be unperked?

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« Reply #68 on: January 09, 2001, 05:22:00 PM »
"From this I guess the Chog (or any other plane that is popular) is considered very unbalancing). I don't have a problem with perking Chog or any other plane. One question would be does that mean if Chog is unpopular after it is perked it will be unperked?"

 Try replacing the word "popular" with "unbalancing" above and then you would at least appear to have comprehended the reason it may be perked and not going off half baked like several others have.

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« Reply #69 on: January 09, 2001, 05:54:00 PM »
Westy....obviously you didn't comprehend what I typed...I was equating popular with unbalancing.

An in addition...I didn't go off half baked. I said I had no problem with them perking Chog or any other plane.

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« Reply #70 on: January 09, 2001, 07:38:00 PM »
wish a couple of you guys had the balls to post under the same name you now fly with.

The Nik not flown as much as the chog?...not from where I fly.

Yes indeed...we need more Japanese planes, have always liked to fly them but won't fly the Niki cause of the whiners.

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« Reply #71 on: January 09, 2001, 08:41:00 PM »
 
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The Nik not flown as much as the chog?...not from where I fly.
  • The F4U-1C has 17714 kills and has been killed 13133 times.
  • The F6F-5 has 7090 kills and has been killed 8056 times.
  • The N1K2 has 7151 kills and has been killed 5714 times.
  • The F4U-1D has 5583 kills and has been killed 5853 times.
  • The P-51D has 4719 kills and has been killed 4560 times.
  • AKDjV has 90 kills and has been killed 41 times in the F4U-1D.
  • AKDjV has 0 kills and has been killed 0 times in the F4U-1C.
Just where do you fly?

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« Reply #72 on: January 10, 2001, 05:11:00 AM »
My perception Mr Vu is that I see as many Niks as chogs...neither of which bother me much as I simply dont care what other people fly.

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« Reply #73 on: January 10, 2001, 05:39:00 AM »
Dedicated-good 1C pilots wont go flying the N1K2, IMHO. The dweeb crowd will go N1K2.
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« Reply #74 on: January 10, 2001, 06:43:00 AM »
 
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Jekyll & Glasses...I, and I'm sure the rest of the community would surely appreciate it if you could indicate which weaknesses aren't modeled on the Niki that are modeled on other arena planes. Thanks!

I think RAM's list covered everything quite well  

 
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Also, if you could supply a list of any other planes that you don't like, perhaps those could be perked for you as well.

SOB, if you had even bothered to read my initial post you would see I am against perking the C-Hog  

 
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You did tell me a bit about the 190s, but I don't really care about them LuftWaffley planes

Well, that's obviously the difference between us SOB ... I happen to care about all of the AH aircraft.  I have my favourites, sure, but I like to see a balanced arena.

BTW, I just noticed that in Tour 11 over half your kills came from flying the N1K2, so I suppose I can understand your fear and loathing of other aircraft  

Gatt spake:

 
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Dedicated-good 1C pilots wont go flying the N1K2, IMHO. The dweeb crowd will go N1K2.

Hmm, like a certain C.205 driver I recently met in the MA GAT?  

Now you know why I won't fly the N1K2.  I don't want to be associated with the wrong crowd  

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