Author Topic: Terrorist enjoy the Phillipines cowardice (Read 1840 times)

Dago · « **on:** July 21, 2004, 03:51:43 PM »

Now they are taking advantage of the lesson the Phillipines has taught them, terrorism works. Of course, Spain was ahead of the Phillipines in rewarding terrorism.

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Group Threatens to Behead 6 New Hostages

By RAVI NESSMAN, Associated Press Writer

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Militants took six foreign truck drivers hostage and threatened Wednesday to behead them unless their company ends its business in Iraq (news - web sites), and their countries — India, Egypt and Kenya — pull all their citizens out.

When weak nations let terrorists determine the course of their elections, when weak nations let terrorist determine their militaries strategies, the behavior is rewarded and encouraged, not discouraged and eliminated.

Unbelievable. Pathetic. Cowardly.

dago

Yeager · « **Reply #1 on:** July 21, 2004, 03:57:30 PM »

the bigger mistake was in not requesting, or insisting that the smaller less capable countries withdraw from active coalition service when it became obvious that their political liabilities were larger than their mission contributions. I would prefer the US go it alone at this point rather than having country after country retreat under pressure of terror.

Pongo · « **Reply #2 on:** July 21, 2004, 04:39:51 PM »

Definalty true. The insurgents will attack the invaders in any effective way they can. Once they had success with the philipinos the other small partners were imedialty in increadble danger.
They might be carefull with the Indians though. They play hardball.
Nothing would help the US more then a pissed off India putting 40000 troops in Iraq.
They would do it too.

cpxxx · « **Reply #3 on:** July 21, 2004, 04:58:37 PM »

This happened before. The Palestinians used to hijack planes and hold the passengers hostage until some of their friends were released. Eventually it stopped when countries began to use special forces to attack the terrorists. Eventually a line will have to be drawn. When it stops working it will stop. That means hostages must die. A horrible but obvious truth.

SLO · « **Reply #4 on:** July 21, 2004, 05:33:18 PM »

so instead of leaving in August like they had planned too. They decided why not save some one and leave one month earlier.

a thank you would of been better then your cowardly comment.

then you ask why so many people find you arrogant and ego prone.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #5 on:** July 21, 2004, 05:39:09 PM »

It's perfectly rational that the Philipinos left. They only had 50 people and were scheduled to leave next month anyway. From a Philipino politician's wiew it was a reasonable exchange to save a man's life and I'm happy he is OK.

However, many others in Iraq will now pay dearly because the terrorists see the reward for their actions and will step up the kidnappings and murders. I'm not happy about that.

Dago · « **Reply #6 on:** July 21, 2004, 05:40:07 PM »

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so instead of leaving in August like they had planned too. They decided why not save some one and leave one month earlier.

Basically you are choosing to put the blinders on aren't you?

The terrorisist see the Phillipinos leaving early as a victory. It is a move that will cost many people dearly in the future, as the 6 now being held are the first to pay.

Your comment was beyond naive, it shows a lack of even the basic ability to comprehend the concept of cause and reaction.

I think Yeager made the best suggestion, ask the smaller contributors to leave, rather than wait for them to be put in the same situation.

dago

SLO · « **Reply #7 on:** July 21, 2004, 05:53:17 PM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
However, many others in Iraq will now pay dearly because the terrorists see the reward for their actions and will step up the kidnappings and murders. I'm not happy about that.

Agree, still though, its not BECAUSE of the Phillipinos.

they're still gonna kidnap and murder UNTIL you leave, and they will still keep doing it AFTER you leave.

its there mindset Grun. They will need a few centuries before they can fully appreciate what you guys are trying to give them.

someone once posted that it would be faster instilling Demo. in Iraq IF you sent PS2's to every kid there. Wise words in my opinion.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #8 on:** July 21, 2004, 05:57:48 PM »

Surely you arent saying that these guys just like to chop heads with no real hope of a greater political result? That makes no sense. Of course they will be encouraged by the Philipine pullout... Its their first direct victory with this tactic...

I dont mean to get hung up on your view of the word "because" but simple logic says that the head choppers now have evidence that their tactic works and as rational human beings they will use it more and with more confidence.

SLO · « **Reply #9 on:** July 21, 2004, 06:00:10 PM »

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Originally posted by Dago
Basically you are choosing to put the blinders on aren't you?

The terrorisist see the Phillipinos leaving early as a victory. It is a move that will cost many people dearly in the future, as the 6 now being held are the first to pay.

Your comment was beyond naive, it shows a lack of even the basic ability to comprehend the concept of cause and reaction.

dago

now that would be cause and AFFECT. But nice try anyways.

look Dago, your out to get someone. Have fun in your search. When your ready to discuss and not flame I'll start replyin to your posts.

mietla · « **Reply #10 on:** July 21, 2004, 06:03:56 PM »

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Originally posted by SLO
now that would be cause and AFFECT. But nice try anyways.

look Dago, your out to get someone. Have fun in your search. When your ready to discuss and not flame I'll start replyin to your posts.

you mean EFFECT smart ass.

SLO · « **Reply #11 on:** July 21, 2004, 06:05:49 PM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Surely you arent saying that these guys just like to chop heads with no real hope of a greater political result? That makes no sense. Of course they will be encouraged by the Philipine pullout... Its their first direct victory with this tactic...

I dont mean to get hung up on your view of the word "because" but simple logic says that the head choppers now have evidence that their tactic works and as rational human beings they will use it more and with more confidence.

chopping heads and blowing oneself up, mind telling me the difference.

Grun, its called a SCARE TACTIC, next year it might be something else.

I did say its in there MINDS(hence the mindset comment)

and it really has NOTHING to do with Politics Grun, they just hate you with a passion(thats there excuse for kidnapping)

SLO · « **Reply #12 on:** July 21, 2004, 06:07:49 PM »

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Originally posted by mietla
you mean EFFECT smart ass.

thank you for the correction.

but please refrain from the smart bellybutton comment, really didn't need that one

mietla · « **Reply #13 on:** July 21, 2004, 06:11:45 PM »

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Originally posted by SLO
thank you for the correction.

but please refrain from the smart bellybutton comment, really didn't need that one

smart bellybutton is exactly what I meant.

When you are trying to inflate your own self-image by smugly correcting other people's grammar, spelling and phrases they use, you better work on your language abilities first.

Pongo · « **Reply #14 on:** July 21, 2004, 06:14:13 PM »

All you have to do is read the headlines and you know that the thread poster is correct. The philipines lack of resolve to finish something they got involved with will cost others their lives.
Just because I think its silly that they are there at all doesnt mean that I think they should be so spineless at what will be others expense.