anyone wanna learn acm's

[Delirium]

You have my apologies, if you weren't trying to insult them. I'm sort of the 'White Knight' and defend people where any perceived injustice has been done.

No hard feelings, Steve?

Originally posted by Steve
flame them?  You're kidding right?

I was pokin a lil fun at Jaxxo and Slo, don't have  bad thought for either one of them..  

[jaxxo]

Wow this thread was going somewhere.....oy yea..if anyone wants to help train newbs email me...




Zamo i saw your  vulch runnin scared 190 land 11 kills yesterday. Your invited as a a student.

[jaxxo]

oh yea spent an hour flying "no guns" with a guy in da last night...was great. Unfortunately i couldnt offer him too many tips for the f6f...thus more trainers are needed.

[phookat]

Originally posted by jaxxo
Zamo i saw your  vulch runnin scared 190 land 11 kills yesterday. Your invited as a a student.

Just curious...if you're in a 190, how do you fly?

[Dead Man Flying]

Nice setup on that Spit last night, Jaxxo.  That was some fine stuff.

-- Todd/Leviathn

[Dead Man Flying]

Originally posted by phookat
Just curious...if you're in a 190, how do you fly?

Aggressively.  The Dora is so fast and accelerates so well that it was designed for aggressive flying.  Aggressiveness does not equate to turnfighting, but it does mean that when you hold all the cards, you push the point against other, less capable planes.

Unlike Zekes or Hurricanes or many of the Spitfires, the Dora and other fast planes can fly aggressively and then exit and reset if things begin going badly.

-- Todd/Leviathn

[slimm50]

Originally posted by Steve
flame them?  You're kidding right?

I was pokin a lil fun at Jaxxo and Slo, don't have  bad thought for either one of them.. well excpet for maybe Slo's political leanings.*




* A note for Delirium: This was poking more fun, I'll do this from now on when you are involved in a thread.*2


*2  A note to Delirium:  That was poking fun at you.  

Heh, kinda like "let me know if i've done anything to offend you.........and I'll do it again."

[HUN]

Best ways to learn how to fight:

1: You have to want to get better--there are folks in this game      that have been at it for years and are completely content at getting a P51 with 2 eggs to a base and dropping their ordinance before the ack gets them.

2: You have to fly a lot of sorties and die a lot

3: Do some reading; although reading doesn’t help if you can't understand the concept or how to apply it to your fight.

4: Watch a lot of films.

5: Understand the strengths and weakness of your fighter and how it performs against other fighters. Try to stick with 1 particular fighter in the beginning.

6: Be content with trying to get on somebody’s' 6'oclock and follow them through their moves.  

7: The EUREKA factor:  This comes eventually--usually involved with finally understanding a particular move and when to apply that move.  I.E. Wow I can do something other than a flat turn against an opponent.

My 2 cents

[jaxxo]

Thanx levi. I actually only started flying the 109 a few days ago. Someone gave me a good tip on spiral climb and rope in the 109. First time i tried it was when u saw me Anyway it inspired me to start this thread. Hopefully some pilots will step forward and reveal their tips and secrets.

[jaxxo]

Levi is right about the 190d. Its is however annoying when folks avoid all engagement with similair plane types..similair alt..etc. by diving out and hauling arse. Even the running part isnt that bad its the running straight to the runway for a quick cherry before they leave that annoys me. I came in to a field at 14k in an fm2 last night and saw 4 coalt 190's instantly dive out and run from me...these are the guys that i would like to help lol. I think gameplay would get alot better. there is so much posturing and ego tripping in the ma that newbs are afraid to learn by dying all the time . Cant blame them its no fun, so its pick the fastest plane, vulch,and go land your 3 kills if your lucky.

[phookat]

Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Aggressiveness does not equate to turnfighting

Yes, that is the point I wanted to make.  Agree with the rest too, nice post.

[Nwbie]

One quick way to learn is to ride along with a good stick, I rode one afternoon for like 10 flights with WildThng, man what an education, he was taking short pull shots at planes and getting kills way before I would even think about it, he was anticipating the plane's position way before I could... It helped me realize how he gets those kills, I now pay more attention to the planes sounds, ie. lots players chopping throttle for those turns, and taking those snap shots at where they will be, instead of where they are, if that makes sense...

I ain't no ace, will always be the resident noob

But it is lots more fun knowing you at least got a chance against some of these guys...
I go into TA arena once in awhile, but it seems that no one really wants to learn the fine art of augering after a 10k dive, I do it with such grace, too bad I can't pass on my knowledge


NwBie

[Furball]

i'm glad the 2 things i always tell people that are very important, have come up.  proves i'm not a complete idiot

Anticipation and Agressivness.

Anticipate your opponents next move, and set about putting yourself in an advantageous position or shooting opportunity on it.  

Agressiveness - do something your opponent will not expect, like feint an attack, make your opponent evade and while he is doing that, hit him with the real attack.  Chances are he will have lost sight of you and will not be in a position to reverse.

I tend to turnfight anything in anything for a turn or two. chances are you will get your shot if they don't expect you to.  If you are losing, than its time to extend and reverse.

[Steve]

Then there is the tactical side which how and when you apply different technics. Are you going to have your E taken from you while kicking and screaming? Or are you going to just burn in guns'a'blazin with no thought to your energy state compaired to all nearby enemies (not just the one your attacking). SA plays a key role in tactical planning, as does energy managment. Doing some stints in the fast planes force you to learn to think tacticly.

Good post

I try to keep My E as best as possible.  Not just for the first opponent but for the next few that will be coming along.

I try to think tactically about the fight.  It's like a chess game, I try to know what my opponent is going to do ahead of time.  I want to act, not react.   There are definitely guys out there who are much better at ACM than me.  I think I do well with tactics, energy management,  and SA, so I do my best to out-think my opponent.

[Steve]

No hard feelings, Steve?

'Course not.