Author Topic: Christians can sure be jerks (Read 3656 times)

Mini D · « **Reply #90 on:** July 30, 2004, 07:30:38 PM »

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Originally posted by mietla
Any totalitarian will see the religion as a threat, or at the very least as an obstacle that needs to be destroyed.

That's very true. Now the question of the day: How many totallitarians are/were also agnostic?

And, yes octavious, I do know the meaning of the word. I believe people quickly hide "agnostic" atrocities behind other phrases such as "totallitarian" and "politics". I'm not saying agnostics are war mongers or evil, but I'm not dismissing them as non-violent either.

I think it's pretty much a stretch to assume that an agnostic never hunted someone down and killed them, or that every war throughout history was started by either someone religous or an athiest... but never an agnostic (even if the word didn't exist back then).

demaw1 · « **Reply #91 on:** July 30, 2004, 07:30:47 PM »

Chairboy....atheist

Than you worship your self,you are your own little god,dont get me wrong as you have all night ,I dont care ,I personally would judge you on how you act in sociaty, not who you worship.It is when you all start telling me what you, think I should do and not do ,where I should or should not pray within reason.Take the little tiny cross on the seal of LA off, but leave the picture of the goddess of love diana,arrest a little girl of 9 at school because she brought her little bible to read at recess.I am talking hand cuffs.I could go on and on about things like that little girl and yes we are winning most of the cases in court but why is it happening. Because of people like you and dont bother with the it aint me thing,it sure as hell isnt catholics or buddist doin it.I t may not be in my life time, but the time will come when we start loseing in court just like in nazi germany, then when you come for us we will see if there is a God wont we. Still doesnt matter to me, leave us alone and so long as you dont kill, rape, steal, plunder,or cause pain to anyone of any color, religion,education,or anything else like this we dont care what you do.

demaw1 · « **Reply #92 on:** July 30, 2004, 07:40:36 PM »

Phookat 1776

Man are all of you that are intolerant with religion such morans? You phookat could not possibly come up with [ christians didnt know the real jesus until 1776] and all the other garbage by reading what I wrote,yet you did.

Iwonder if anyone can inform phookat when the reformation was or when the king james was written. I am not going to because he would just read it upside down and say I said it was i 2002.

Hint phookat.........it was a hell af a long time before 1776

Mini D · « **Reply #93 on:** July 30, 2004, 07:56:56 PM »

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Man are all of you that are intolerant with religion such morans?

When calling people morons, it's important to spell the word correctly.

demaw1 · « **Reply #94 on:** July 30, 2004, 08:01:16 PM »

Octavious agnostic

Well big words ,very good writing ,interesting books,honest when you are not pretending to be drunk you do well, but

If you were familier with what you were writing about ,the first and formost useage of agnostic is religious,meaning one who does not believe there can be proof of God, but does not deny the possibility of God.

what you were talking about is secondary,I can be agnostic about you turning right or left.

I only responded because I wanted iron to know he was right,but i am agnostic in your case.

He was also right about nazism you arnt but whats the use

demaw1 · « **Reply #95 on:** July 30, 2004, 08:10:22 PM »

Mini D morins

I had no desire to spell it right,furthermore if you had read an earlier post you would have noticed I did spell it right.Just my way of not getting to personal as so many others do here.

Mini D · « **Reply #96 on:** July 30, 2004, 08:17:44 PM »

Ah... I see. You are a moran.

SOB · « **Reply #97 on:** July 30, 2004, 08:19:38 PM »

Mini-D is a NAZI.

phookat · « **Reply #98 on:** July 30, 2004, 08:20:26 PM »

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Originally posted by demaw1
Man are all of you that are intolerant with religion such morans?

Stop being so defensive. The whole thesis of my posts is tolerance, nay even acceptance, of all religions and atheism as well.

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Hint phookat.........it was a hell af a long time before 1776

No kidding. Then why did democracy not happen at that time? Your assertion is that Christianity was the cause of America as we know it today. But there were plenty of Christians before the founding of America, weren't there? Plenty even of the "right" Christians, in your eyes.

I see that you are ignoring the rest of my post BTW. I'll take that as an implicit agreement with my statements, but actually it is more probably just a case of you hearing just what you want to hear. Or not having anything to say, but that has not stopped you before.

X2Lee · « **Reply #99 on:** July 30, 2004, 08:23:11 PM »

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When given a choice between seafood and a steak, I will naturally choose a steak. Big-assed t-bone, grilled to perfection, yum yum. I could NEVAR be Hindu.

So, in America its bad to eat a dog but its ok to eat a cow.
In india its ok to eat a dog but its bad to eat a cow.

Its bad for a Jew to eat a pig.

Cant we just eat what we want?

Demaw dont give me any of Apostle Paul saying its ok to eat everything either.

I think kitty cats are forbotten.

X2Lee · « **Reply #100 on:** July 30, 2004, 08:24:06 PM »

and dont turn a lobster on its back before you eat it.
It may ruin your appetite.

phookat · « **Reply #101 on:** July 30, 2004, 08:35:23 PM »

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Originally posted by demaw1
It is when you all start telling me what you, think I should do and not do ,where I should or should not pray within reason.

Nope, wouldn't do that. And you don't tell me what to do either. Putting religion in government is telling me what to do.

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Originally posted by demaw1
Take the little tiny cross on the seal of LA off, but leave the picture of the goddess of love diana

Did that act prevent you or anyone else from praying? Did it in fact hurt anyone at all in any way? I agree it was pretty silly to remove the cross and keep the Goddess of Agriculture, but that's the extent of it.

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arrest a little girl of 9 at school because she brought her little bible to read at recess.I am talking hand cuffs.

If this happened, then yes I agree this is a bad thing.

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I could go on and on about things like that little girl and yes we are winning most of the cases in court but why is it happening. Because of people like you and dont bother with the it aint me thing,it sure as hell isnt catholics or buddist doin it.

Atheism is not the cause of this. The reason people do bad things is because they are bad people...not because they are religious or not. Plenty of religious people have done bad things and so have atheists.

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It may not be in my life time, but the time will come when we start loseing in court just like in nazi germany, then when you come for us we will see if there is a God wont we.

I see you do have a persecution complex, caused by reading about the little girl and her Bible, and then magnifying that to represent a whole society. Hint: don't flatter yourself. No one is persecuting you.

demaw1 · « **Reply #102 on:** July 31, 2004, 01:34:13 AM »

Phookat......fine I will answer a few questions, but dont see the use as each of you have been intellectually dishonest in the reading of my posts.
1. Greek democracy: a couple of countries since beginning of time have had a form of democracy. America is the only republic that I know of, with a bill of rights,this is what gives the freedom.

2.The vast majority of the founding fathers were christians and tied us to the bible.They knew the dangers european style church/state relations and didnt want that.Therefore the idea of freedom of religion came into play, as no country had that.In that freedom they said America is founded on judeo/christian teaching and most of our laws came from english common law which had its start ready...from the bible.But others could worship as they saw fit.
3.plural churches. No where did they write of churchs as in many religions.It was singular church they were worried about.Such as england /protestant....russia/orthadox...spain/catholic...that is where the problem was....the guiding force for the u.s. was the bible not baptist, protestant, anything...I tell u this it sure wasnt secularism like it is today.

4. we would not have had the rich culture and economy without it.We probably would be like the balkins.

5. Freedom of religion implies nothing but what it says,FREEDOM of religion.You may try to twist it any which way you want but the three words have only 1 meaning.

6.ONCE AGAIN,The founding fathers, in all their writings never said anything except freedom of religion......not freedom from religion because anyone can see you cant have both.
7.both statements 1] persecution complex and arrest atheist are frankly stupid.

Booky · « **Reply #103 on:** July 31, 2004, 01:59:39 AM »

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It was an act of drama. American adults should be more tolerant. IMHO they acted like a coupla premadonas.

More tolerable? Your kidding me right? I look around and all the things that adults like myself "tolerate" on a day to day basis and your asking me to tolerate more? WTF dude, when is it your chance to sacrifice a bit of tolerance?

demaw1 · « **Reply #104 on:** July 31, 2004, 02:19:48 AM »

Ok Phookat the other questions.

1.Tell what to do....you all was generic it did not single you out.
I have said this several times I dont give a damn what you all[generic] do/ until you [generic] step on my freedoms given me by a creator as the founding fathers said.

2. Putting religion in gov.is no issue as you can not put 10 different religions in gov. Therefore freedom of religion means, the gov.can not pick a religion to be a state religion because then you would not have freedom of religion.
Ironic that is exactly what people with your beliefs are trying to do.You want your religion...secular humanism... to be the state religion.

3.Tiny cross...It is sad that is all you think it is,no it didnt stop me from praying, but we are not stupid,what it did do is chip away a little more of freedom of religion,to freedom from religion which would destory freedom of religion,that is when it will blow up in your face.[generic] by the way you are right she is the goddess of agriculture.
That is far from the extent of it when you add it to everything else that is happening. From youall [generic] trying to destory the boy scouts,to arresting 15 / 9th graders that held hands in a circle around a flag pole at their school opening day to ask God to bless the school and the teachers and to help them understand what the teachers are trying to teach during the school year.ya hand cuffs again.
4. Atheism,secular humanism ,communism,nazism, facism all the same and it is causing it all.and they all did and do 3 main things before or right after they take power....demonize christianity is one of them.

5. Persecution complex ,emm all I did was read about the little girl huh, oh and then I magnified it to represent society,how silly of me....Well you bet your bellybutton no one is persecuting me, hint...no one will.